[2025 Six Nations] Ireland vs England - 01/02/25

[mikebrownsauce1512]

No Roebuck

Looking forward to seeing Murley at international level

Feel for Roebuck, maybe if Freeman continues his mediocre form Steve will give Roebuck a shot with Murley on the other wing. Happy for Murley though, excited to see how he goes.

 

[Geordie]

Murley is a cracking winger...i have no issues with him in there. Strong defence and strong attacking game.

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

Who is Murley and how can I best abuse him from the side of the pitch? (I will be attemding with my mother so please make it particularly horrific)

He plays for Quins. Need any more?

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

He plays for Quins. Need any more?

I'll bring a bag of [fake] blood to throw.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

I've been campaigning to get the East Midlands kicked out of England for years, but no luck yet

Give it to the Danes, they seemed to want it so much before. It will make them feel better about Greenland.

 

[Geordie]

England by 10....bench will be the difference.

 

[AngloScotsHybrid]

I don't understand the logic of starting with both Curry brothers. Can someone explain please? They are both jacklers and link men rather than ball carriers. Why wouldn't you want ball carriers against Ireland?

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

Why announce it so early? Even if fairly predictable, it just doesn't make sense.

Like the back row individually, not as a unit. When the subs come on there will have to be a total emphasis shift - do the Irish stop competing at the breakdown after 55 mins? (Assume Chessum likely to replace Martin in the row, even worse if he doesn't).

Don't like 6:2. Presumably a clear signal that M Smith will finish the game at FB. Not too bothered about Murley over Roebuck, but if one of the wingers goes down we've got no real gas / significant wing experience to replace them.

Pleased to see LCD back.

 

[BPM]

I don't understand the logic of starting with both Curry brothers. Can someone explain please? They are both jacklers and link men rather than ball carriers. Why wouldn't you want ball carriers against Ireland?

That's not really true though, @TRF_Olyy can probably do a better job answering this as the resident Sale expert, but my take is that they're often lazily cast as 'the same' because they're identical twins.

IMO, Tom hasn't really been a link man since he bulked up to play 8. He's more of a carrier and ruck hitting workhorse these days. In many ways, more of a traditional blindside. Ben is definitely lighter and more of a fetcher.

 

[Which Tyler]

That's not really true though, @TRF_Olyy can probably do a better job answering this as the resident Sale expert

You mean Sale have other fans somewhere?

 

[Which Tyler]

Why announce it so early? Even if fairly predictable, it just doesn't make sense.

Let the fear us!

Never let evidence spoil a good theory

 

[Geordie]

That's not really true though, @TRF_Olyy can probably do a better job answering this as the resident Sale expert, but my take is that they're often lazily cast as 'the same' because they're identical twins.

IMO, Tom hasn't really been a link man since he bulked up to play 8. He's more of a carrier and ruck hitting workhorse these days. In many ways, more of a traditional blindside. Ben is definitely lighter and more of a fetcher.

Yes thats how i would see it also.

But hes clearly gone with the mobile powerful 3 7's style and will then look to bring the power on to see out the game. But we have to be close to the Irish up to the 45-50 min point if thats to work...

 

[mikebrownsauce1512]

I'll bring a bag of [fake] blood to throw.

People still going on about that

Lucky its not a 1/4 final lol

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

People still going on about that

Lucky its not a 1/4 final lol

That was a 1/4 final

 

[TRF_Olyy]

You mean Sale have other fans somewhere?

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

Feel for Roebuck, maybe if Freeman continues his mediocre form Steve will give Roebuck a shot with Murley on the other wing. Happy for Murley though, excited to see how he goes.

Freeman has been excellent in SBs eyes though. He's been brilliant at kick chase and got a load of those 50/50 high bombs.

He was used very oddly though last year and several times ended up at FB with Furbank in the line. So fans don't see him showing his X factor and lots doubting his form but I can guarantee SB is loving him doing the boring stuff.

Would be nice to see him used like we do at the saints though, wingers are supposed to be used in attack.

 

[mikebrownsauce1512]

Freeman has been excellent in SBs eyes though. He's been brilliant at kick chase and got a load of those 50/50 high bombs.

He was used very oddly though last year and several times ended up at FB with Furbank in the line. So fans don't see him showing his X factor and lots doubting his form but I can guarantee SB is loving him doing the boring stuff.

Would be nice to see him used like we do at the saints though, wingers are supposed to be used in attack.

I agree, I think Freeman is a great player hopefully we see more of him over the coming weeks. I just like what Roebuck is about atm.

 

[mikebrownsauce1512]

That was a 1/4 final

I was talking about the game this weekend implying that if it was a 1/4 final you would lose. Don't suppose you know Irelands record in world cup 1/4 finals do you, asking for a mate

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

I was talking about the game this weekend implying that if it was a 1/4 final you would lose. Don't suppose you know Irelands record in world cup 1/4 finals do you, asking for a mate

Ah, I didn't get the joke until this.

 

[IT157]

I like that England team and squad a lot. No complaints here.

Of course on other sites people are bemoaning no Ted Hill in the match day squad. Considering our wealth in the backrow this seems like a odd complaint. Although I guess no team/squad is going to satisfy everyone.