[2023 Six Nations] Ireland v England - 18 March 2023

[Groundhog]

Well we're ahead despite playing maybe our worst 40 of the comp. Some of our usually more reliable players haven't been great. I'll take the scoreline at half though

 

[AngloScotsHybrid]

Arundel looking like an inexperienced player.

Well he has hardly played in the last 6 months...

 

[IT157]

Absolutely no chance in the time available. Fantasy comment.

Yeah the trouble with these slowed down replays is it makes it seems the players have more time than they actually do. It was clumsy, but the slow motion doesn't help.

 

[Jimbo]

Probably had to be red based on current interpretations but in all honesty these things are often rugby incidences, if a player isn't really initiating the contact it should under some circumstances be mitigation in itself.

 

[Houseplant]

Whatever you think of the decision it's a shame for the game.

@TRF_Olyy I can't work out how to DM you but I've got locked out of my normal account so made a new one. Can you help?

 

[Rinkadink]

Was that even a tackle attempt? If not should officials have followed the high tackle protocols? I'm sure mitigation could have been found even if it was as it was all a bit random.

I think Ireland were starting to find control so probably makes little difference.

 

[Scotty]

Out of curiosity what happens if steward doesn't turn his shoulder? And Keenan bounces off the chest with his head?

 

[sergeblanco]

That's it tv's off, I was enjoying that until the red card, can't bare to watch the floodgates open.
See you in September.

 

[BrokenWing]

Ireland whine about it and get the decision.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Absolutely no chance in the time available. Fantasy comment.

He had time to lean the elbow in lol, just turn the other way.

 

[Gavin]

Ireland whine about it and get the decision.

 

[Jimbo]

Out of curiosity what happens if steward doesn't turn his shoulder? And Keenan bounces off the chest with his head?

Depends on the interpretations doesn't it, a-bit like the scrums total lottery.

 

[TommiG88]

Can I change nationality like Dempsey?

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

He had time to lean the elbow in lol, just turn the other way.

TBF that's a more natural human instinct to do

 

[Cruz_del_Sur]

Can't argue but no idea what else he could have done.

This is the thing: BC gets the ball a mili second before so he cant attempt to tackle earlier. BC is also leaning forward, so head first. Peyper said 'you were upright'. How the **** is he supposed to position himself if the guy grabs the ball on his face. True, he could have chosen not to contest. Turning the body is, imo, clearly not to attempt to stop the BC but to protect himself from the collision. Almost instinctive. We're watchin most of the replays in slow mow from our couches. It's fast a ****.

If you dont time things perfectly (and know that!) the only move is not to contest and wait, which gives bc momentum. I get why is a red. My point is that he was very, very unlucky.

- Well hallo captain obvious!

 

[General Melchett]

It was clearly an instinctive protective movement by Steward to prevent Keenan charging head first into his rib cage. Madness

 

[Ceteris]

How is there no mitigation when the Irish player is that low?

And he's not leading with the elbow, it's tugged to his body

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

It brings a question in how mitigation should be done.

Also the old age question of if should a 3rd card be in for reckless accidental issues

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Good spot from Wilko that it looked like the ball was gonna be hacked on and Steward reacts to that, but then Keenan grabs it and Stewards in no man's land with what he can do

 

[BrokenWing]

Damn straight.