[2023 Six Nations] England v France 11 March 2023. Kickoff 16:45

[IT157]

Maybe rhw French have peaked and that's their world Cup over.

Maybe. As long as New Zealand don't win then I would be fine with France winning.

 

[Protalus rampart]

Borthwick was the safe choice and safe isn't enough to salvage this England team before the World Cup unfortunately.

 

[McTallshort]

 

[TRF_Olyy]

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Needs to bring the scab back

 

[IT157]

Borthwick was the safe choice and safe isn't enough to salvage this England team before the World Cup unfortunately.

I never understood the choice tbh. I would have kept Jones until the World Cup.

Instead they hired a more boring/worse coach. But because he's English and serious it was seen as a good choice! lol

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Good call Ramos motm

All their big players turned up today. DuPont and I also thought Danty returning made a big impact in midfield. They just made far fewer errors than England which just made tonnes of today.

 

[Reiser99]

English rugby is in meltdown. National team quite possibly the worst it's ever been. Clubs going bust. RFU has absolutely no vision.

Borthwick was the safe choice and safe isn't enough to salvage this England team before the World Cup unfortunately.

Borthwick was a bad choice. Don't think anyone genuinely thought he was ready or had shown enough to be head coach. Doesn't matter whether he's willing to drop Farrell as he's done almost nothing to fix the issues that England have had.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

I'd like to say it would be a wakeup call and that we have been slipping for a long time but I think English rugby as a whole could sleep through a nuclear bomb right now. The same problems have been there for years and never been addressed.

Looks like far from building a new golden generation, we are going into an era similar to after 2003, just without the good bits beforehand. Across the board this is the worst England have been that I can think of since then. So many "worst ever" records have been set by England in the past 10 years, now another to add to the tally. If it wasn't for the fact I have a friend coming to visit, for the first time I wouldn't even bother watching the last game. Turned this off after 30 mins when it was clear we were ******.

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

I'm still blaming Umbro.

 

[AngloScotsHybrid]

I didn't realise how good Danty was until today. Though he did play more like a flanker than a centre.

 

[Rinkadink]

Reckon England's backs generally looked okay. Not sure the system is though? Scrummaging, meh. Acceptable, managed to change momentum and get pens before end of game decline with replacements.

Collisions, carrying and breakdown work? Particularly second and back row individuals and coaching have to be questioned there IMO. Dan Cole being one of the most visible players for his work rate during the last quarter was very telling.

France outstanding. Very obvious they have everything to their game, including the psychology. Brilliant and good to watch.

 

[Grizwald]

Borthwick was the safe choice and safe isn't enough to salvage this England team before the World Cup unfortunately.

Honestly I don't think it matters. 4 years ago we had a team full of international to world class players the ones we still have, have dropped below that bar.

We'll never know, might have had a plan today until got a very hard French punch in the face.

 

[Wichita]

So Macron gets half a billion quid from our Govt to patrol their beaches and now this.

As the match plainly shows, the English are truly abysmal at stopping people crossing their line , so it might be a sound choice to fund the French to do it

 

[TommiG88]

That's the worst I've seen England since around 2006.

 

[higgik]

I didn't realise how good Danty was until today. Though he did play more like a flanker than a centre.

Exactly what we are missing, a back that can do the work of a loose forward. At least we might have someone to resource rucks

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

Exactly what we are missing, a back that can do the work of a loose forward. At least we might have someone to resource rucks

Lawrence does tend to be good at that tbf

 

[Geordie]

Maybe. As long as New Zealand don't win then I would be fine with France winning.

Ha ha I'd rather NZ than any of the other 6n teams.

 

[General Melchett]

Maggie Alphonsi saying it was a hard watch. I could say the same about her and Woodward.

 

[g6mcg]

Exactly what we are missing, a back that can do the work of a loose forward. At least we might have someone to resource rucks

Like Farrell?

 

[TopTen2003]

Having listened to the headache-inducing Nick Mullins for an hour and an half whilst the best commentator in the country was sent to Rome, ITV are now asking Maggie Alphonsi to sum up what went wrong - the final insult.