A Political Thread pt. 2

[Ragey Erasmus]

Aye, by soon I mean this week and keep topping up month by month.

Regretting having money sitting losing value in savings the last 18months or so so this is an opportunity.

It's so annoying that this is happening now when I want my savings due a potential house move and can't dump them into investments, otherwise I'd be jumping in.

 

[Deleted member 90256]

Isn't this a huge part of why everything is going to pot? People making money from the market misery?

 

[ncurd]

Brexit is like Trump, it's not worth trying to have civilised rational nuanced conversations with those who just want to scream like a banshee

So none then like everyone who has said there are benefits. Just list one.

 

[dirty harry]

Aye, by soon I mean this week and keep topping up month by month.

Regretting having money sitting losing value in savings the last 18months or so so this is an opportunity.

Honestly, in yesteryear it was risk management, money was safer in the bank than it was risked on the market, but currently, with the interest rates and devaluation of currency it just doesn't make any sense to have it sitting around losing value any more...

Use it or lose it - warren buffett probably

 

[dirty harry]

Isn't this a huge part of why everything is going to pot? People making money from the market misery?

Kind of, butnif the bond villains like Musk, Bezos, Trump Pelosi and others are all doing it, who is anyone to question my ethics for making money the same way?

Michael o leary started a company on buying up a few cheap aeroplanes amongst a global disaster didn't he?

 

[dirty harry]

So none then like everyone who has said there are benefits. Just list one.

Thanks for proving my point hahaha

 

[Deleted member 90256]

Kind of, butnif the bond villains like Musk, Bezos, Trump Pelosi and others are all doing it, who is anyone to question my ethics for making money the same way?

Michael o leary started a company on buying up a few cheap aeroplanes amongst a global disaster didn't he?

If I ever meet you and you're in a swivel chair, stroking a cat I won't be happy.

 

[Yulia]

Regretting having money sitting losing value in savings the last 18months or so so this is an opportunity.

I had the same pre-Covid times, but then, during Covid, decided to pay out the first mortgage and invested in another property (that now costs four times more expensive than when I bought it). Hard times often give an opportunity

 

[dirty harry]

If I ever meet you and you're in a swivel chair, stroking a cat I won't be happy.

My investment game is so strong...

I can't afford a swivel chair hahaha

I actually do have one unbelievably, my daughter uses it to play Minecraft though, that's about as close to cool as I am these days (I say while raging on an online forum defending Trump hahahaha)

 

[Welsh Exile]

So none then like everyone who has said there are benefits. Just list one.

Brexit is a teetotaller.

 

[dirty harry]

So none then like everyone who has said there are benefits. Just list one.

Ok so you've dragged me in...

I'll list 1, and you can thank me.

Vaccines for COVID. The UKs ability to shift quickly allowed the British public to get vaccinated weeks, in some cases months before their EU neighbours.

My German in laws had to take the Astra because it was a quicker option, and they still weren't vaccinated until 2 months after us.

Uk and US were vaccinating at a rate of nearly x4 than most European countries, mainly due to red tape surrounding securing contracts and approving paperwork.

So there you go, 1 non argumentative fact that Brexit gave the UK a benefit over the EU.

Happy?

 

[BiggusLaddus]

Brexit is a teetotaller.

Farage looks at Brexit wistfully, wishing she wasn't his daughter.

 

[ncurd]

Ok so you've dragged me in...

I'll list 1, and you can thank me.

Vaccines for COVID. The UKs ability to shift quickly allowed the British public to get vaccinated weeks, in some cases months before their EU neighbours.

My German in laws had to take the Astra because it was a quicker option, and they still weren't vaccinated until 2 months after us.

Uk and US were vaccinating at a rate of nearly x4 than most European countries, mainly due to red tape surrounding securing contracts and approving paperwork.

So there you go, 1 non argumentative fact that Brexit gave the UK a benefit over the EU.

Happy?

Nope long debunked myth off discussd on these boards. No part of being in EU would of required us to be part of their red tape and securing paperwork that wasn't required for the AZ both before and after COVID. It's a completely made up bonus from Boris "if I speak I'm lying" Johnson.

Plenty of EU countries did a great job to at vaccine rollout.

There is an argument that if we hadn't left the EU we may have joined those who a joint procurement scheme. But it was completely optional.

 

[ncurd]

Vaccine approval isn’t quicker because of Brexit - Full Fact

The MHRA could have given the Pfizer vaccine the same emergency approval when the UK was in the EU.

fullfact.org

And just for the details.

 

[dirty harry]

Nope long debunked myth off discussd on these boards. No part of being in EU would of required us to be part of their red tape and securing paperwork that wasn't required for the AZ both before and after COVID. It's a completely made up bonus from Boris "if I speak I'm lying" Johnson.

Plenty of EU countries did a great job to at vaccine rollout.

There is an argument that if we hadn't left the EU we may have joined those who a joint procurement scheme. But it was completely optional.

Except my in-laws are in one of the most select areas, of the wealthy cities in Germany, and they were 2 months behind us, thisnis established fact, corroborated by the EU hahahaha

You can't call things the EU say, and I've experienced personally is Boris conspiracy lol.

It's my own fault, I knew how you would react, this is banshee noise not sense

 

[ncurd]

Except my in-laws are in one of the most select areas, of the wealthy cities in Germany, and they were 2 months behind us, thisnis established fact, corroborated by the EU hahahaha

You can't call things the EU say, and I've experienced personally is Boris conspiracy lol.

It's my own fault, I knew how you would react, this is banshee noise not sense

Germany was behind us I didn't say otherwise.

It had nothing to do with Brexit for the reasons we were ahead.

I'm not surprised but disappointed you managed to state one the biggest lies about Brexit. Confirms you'd belive any old tosh told to you by Tories/Republicans but say the rest of us aren't scrutinising.

 

[ncurd]

For those that aren't dirty harry

The Vaccine lie is Brexit in a nutshell "we aren't allowed to do X". Looks at the detail "oh looks like we could do X all along"

 

[dirty harry]

Germany was behind us I didn't say otherwise.

It had nothing to do with Brexit for the reasons we were ahead.

I'm not surprised but disappointed you managed to state one the biggest lies about Brexit. Confirms you'd belive any old tosh told to you by Tories/Republicans but say the rest of us aren't scrutinising.

Every EU country were behind us... euro news made a report on what took them so long, they concluded difficulties in securing contracts and approval delays...

The UK approved Pfieser 3 odd weeks before any EU country could. Why, the European medicines agency had to get member States agreements before it could sign off.

Thisnis 100% a tangible net benefit to being a lone country, to member of a bloc, in which the vaccines were delayed by about a month.

The roll out and each states issues is a different ball game, but the initial delay was 100% a red tape issue the UK didn't have to deal with. This is factual

 

[ncurd]

Every EU country were behind us... euro news made a report on what took them so long, they concluded difficulties in securing contracts and approval delays...

The UK approved Pfieser 3 odd weeks before any EU country could. Why, the European medicines agency had to get member States agreements before it could sign off.

Thisnis 100% a tangible net benefit to being a lone country, to member of a bloc, in which the vaccines were delayed by about a month.

The roll out and each states issues is a different ball game, but the initial delay was 100% a red tape issue the UK didn't have to deal with. This is factual

Citation Needed seriously I've linked you the paperwork.

Don't worry you won't find it.

Brexit Fishing crikey that was even easier than I thought.

 

[dirty harry]

Citation Needed seriously I've linked you the paperwork.

Don't worry you won't find it.

Brexit Fishing crikey that was even easier than I thought.

You posted a laughable link claiming that the UK were acting under EU guidelines using 174...

But that only applies if there have been medical trials lol. The vaccine was so untested, the definition of vaccine required a change hahaha

Let's start with the leaks, and issues in roll out.

The European Medicines Agency's COVID-19 Vaccine Leaks: Hacks, Regulatory Pressures And Manufacturing Concerns - Health Policy Watch

EXCLUSIVE - A series of recent leaks of emails and documents surrounding the EMA’s approval of the first COVID-19 vaccine by Pfizer/BioNTech highlight the

healthpolicy-watch.news

Then we can move to euro news covering the issues

What are the real reasons behind the EU's slow vaccine rollout?

As the EU faces heightened criticism over delays to the coronavirus vaccine rollout, we take a look at why it's taking so long.

www.euronews.com

Let's pivot a little to the 'all for one one for all' method of rollout for the EC

Redirect Notice

The Paul Ehrlict Institute reported that Germany could also benefit from individual approval, as could a number of EU member states (apparently) so with all the frustrations, how come none of them enacted this?

Granted regulation 174 was UK specific, but the EMA left London in 2019, and although still technically representative along side the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency, it was transitioned in everything but name until a week after the EU approved vaccines.

At very best, the UK and EU would have butted heads, and argued over the decision that went against EU policy during the time, which there had been plenty of examples of in recent history.