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World XV and Classic XV

15- Lee Byrne (on top form)
14- Chris Ashton
13- Brian O'Driscoll
12- Sonny Bill Williams
11- Shane Williams
10- Dan Carter
9 - Foruie De Preez
1- Carl Hayman
2- Bismark Du Plesis
3- Tony Woodcock
4- Courtney Lawes
5- Victor Matfield
6- Richie McCaw
7- George Smith
8- Jamie Heaslip
 
15- Lee Byrne (on top form)
14- Chris Ashton
13- Brian O'Driscoll
12- Sonny Bill Williams
11- Shane Williams
10- Dan Carter
9 - Foruie De Preez
1- Carl Hayman
2- Bismark Du Plesis
3- Tony Woodcock
4- Courtney Lawes
5- Victor Matfield
6- Richie McCaw
7- George Smith
8- Jamie Heaslip

Hayman is a tighthead ( 3 ) and Woodcock is a loosehead ( 1 ). Also, Lee Byrne anywhere near is silly. On top form, he's no better than any other fullback on top form (Mils, Dagg, Foden, Beale, O'Connor), but the fact of the matter is, he's in shocking form, and has been since 2009. Few other funny issues (like having an all NH back three...).
 
Out of interest when people define people by their Hemisphere, when Cipriani returns north and IF he actually becomes a top level player (instead of a poor mans Carlos Spencer), will he be considered a NH or a SH player?

Same for Tonga'uiha? is he considered a NH or SH player when he's played **** all rugby south of the equator?
 
Classic XV

1. Richard Hill
15. Richard Hill
All other numbers inbetween. Richard Hill.

Would be immense.
 
15- Lee Byrne (on top form)

If this is a team made up of current players, but based on the form of their careers, you could arguably have any of these players in the World XV.

Tana Umaga (Chiefs), Doug Howlett (Munster), Chris Jack (Crusaders), Carl Hayman (Toulon), Jo Rocokoco (Blues)... there are plenty more, but my point is; if a team like this was included it should be based on current form
 
Best 22's from the North and the South.
-South-........................ -North-
15- Mils Muliaina........... 15- Rob Kearney
14- Drew Mitchel........... 14- Tommy Bowe
13- Conrad Smith.......... 13- Brian O'Driscoll
12- Sonny Bill Williams... 12- Yannick Jouzion
11- Brian Habanna......... 11- Maxime Medard
10- Dan Carter.............. 10- Johnny Sexton
9- Foruie De Preez......... 9- Morgan Parra
1- Tendi Mtawarira........ 1- Thomas Domingo
2- Bismark Du Plessis..... 2- William Servat
3- Tony Woodcock......... 3- Mike Ross
4 - Bakkies Botha........... 4- Alun-Wyn Jones
5- Victor Matfield........... 5- Paul O'Connell
6- Juan Smith................ 6- Sean O'Brien
7- Richie McCaw............ 7- Imanol Harinordoquy
8- Kieran Read.............. 8- Jamie Heaslip

16- Kevin Mealamu........ 16- Matthew Rees
17- Owen Franks........... 17- Nicolas Mas
18- Patricio Albacete...... 18- Leo Cullen
19- David Pocock........... 19- Sergio Parisse
20- Piri Weepu.............. 20- Ben Youngs
21- Kurtly Beale............. 21- James Hook
22- James O'Connor....... 22- Shane Williams

I've made two lists for a few reasons, Most people wouldn't agree with each other
(ie. South is better than North, North is better than South etc...).
Not a lot of these players have been at their best this for parts of this season,
some have also been injured, But they have been consistently the best over the past few years...

The list isn't 100%, just off the top of my head, so chop and change as much as you like :D
 
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Out of interest when people define people by their Hemisphere, when Cipriani returns north and IF he actually becomes a top level player (instead of a poor mans Carlos Spencer), will he be considered a NH or a SH player?

Same for Tonga'uiha? is he considered a NH or SH player when he's played **** all rugby south of the equator?

You guy's an keep Cipriani :p
 
The reason he's better than Wilkinson is because rugby nowadays is more than just kicking for 3 points
 
Is it only about scoring tries....


Or about doing something extra as well?
 
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You're arguing that Hook is a better defender?
Wilko's probably the best defensive 10 going





Since going to Toulon Wilkinson has been on fire - he's not the best 10 in the world, but he's not just a kicking machine.
 
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Southern Hemisphere XV:
15- Kurtley Beale
14-Joe Rocokoko
13-Jacque Fourie
12-Sonny Bill Williams
11-Drew Mitchell
10-Dan Carter
9-Will Genia
8-Juan Martin Lobbe
7-Richie McCaw(c)
6-Juan Smith
5-Victor Matfield
4-Bakkies Botha
3-Owen Franks
2-Kevin Mealamu
1-Tendai 'BEAST' Mtawariri

Bench:
16-Bismark du Plessis
17-Ben Alexander
18-Nathan Sharpe
19-Jerome Kaino
20-Fourie du Preez
21-James O'Connor
22-Felipe Contepomi

Northern Hemisphere XV:
15-Maxime Medard
14-Chris Ashton
13-Brian O'Drischoll
12-Morgan Stoddart
11-Shane Williams
10-Toby Flood
9-Morgan Parra
8-Sergio Parisse
7-Jamie Heaslip
6-Lewis Moody
5-Paul O'Connell(c)
4-Lionel Nallet
3-Martin Castrogiovanni
2-Matthew Rees
1-John Hayes

Bench:
16-Steve Thompson
17-Mike Ross
18-Santiago Dellape
19-Thierry Dusautoir
20-Mike Phillips
21-James Hook
22-Vincent Clerc

Classic XV:
15-Doug Howlett
14-Jonah Lomu
13-Brian O'Drischoll
12-Phillipe Sella
11-David Campese
10-Jonny Wilkinson
9-Joost van der Westhuizen
8-Morne du Plessis
7-Michael Jones
6-Francois Pienaar
5-John Eales
4-Martin Johnson
3-Jason Leonard
2-Sean Fitzpatrick
1-Os du Randt

Bench:
16-Kieth Wood
17-Syd Millar
18-Willie McBride
19-Jean Pierre Garuet
20-Gareth Edwards
21-Sergio Blanco
22-Andrew Mehrtens

Some of these names might not sitisfy you but i finished this Chop-a-block and Classic XV is not very accurate but 20 out 22 players should be there for each team an sorry for the mistake on paul o'connell.
 
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Hahaha yes Paul O'Connor at second row ... new guy never heard of him any good. John Hayes has been garbage, and he's not a loosehead.
 
Stoddard shouldn't even be near a welsh 22, let alone a world :p :p VOMIT VOMIT Indeed
 

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