Women’s European League?

[Rugger1997]

Do you think there should be a women's Champions/Challenge Cup for Domestic European/South Africa sides? If so, which countries should have teams and how many, who would be the strongest sides, and how do the leagues compare?

 

[GalBrEusCat]

EUROPEAN WOMEN'S CHAMPIOSN CUP
Amazones (Bourdeaux)
Chatares (Toulouse)
Écureuil (Paris)
Montagnerdes (Lyon)
Espigas (Valladolid)
Gatas (Madrid)
Sorginak (Donostia)
Trencalossas (Barcelona)
Leinster
Munster
Galeazze (Venezia)
Volpi (Milano)
Brython Thunders (Llanelli)
Gwalia Lightning (Cardiff)
Edinburgh
Cossacks (Москва́)

EPCR WOMEN'S CHALLENGE CUP
Tarasques (Montpellier)
Ginetas (Málaga)
Taronges (Valencia)
Garduñas (Santiago de Compostela)
Kelteded (Rennes)
Airone (Firenze)
Sabine (Roma)
Wolfhounds (Ulster y Connacht)
Glasgow Warriors
Tatars (Kazan)
Tulpen (Amsterdam)
Zeelieden (Rotterdam)
Luisitanas (Lisboa)
Lionesses (Flanders)
Nordic Valkyres (Suecia)
Adler (Germany)

EUROPEAN WOMEN'S SHIELD
Les Fées (Nancy; Grand Est and Hauts-de-France)
Osas (Asturias, Cantabria and León)
Grandelles (Andorra)
Medicanes (Napoli; Southern Italy and Malta)
Siberians (Krasnoyarsk)
Cachenas (Porto)
Flames (Vallonie and Luxembourg)
Lynxes (Balcans states)
Vildsvin (Denmark)
Auroras (Finland)
Amber Warriors (Baltic states)
Dacians (Romania and Bulgaria)
Lindens (Czech Republic and Slovakia)
Krakens (Norway and Iceland)
Alpines (Switzerland and Austria)
Borjgalosnebi (Georgia)

 

[GalBrEusCat]

A small modification... (on red)

EUROPEAN WOMEN'S CHAMPIOSN CUP
Amazones (Bourdeaux)
Chatares (Toulouse)
Écureuil (Paris)
Montagnerdes (Lyon)
Osas (Madrid)
Sorginak (Donostia)
Trencalossas (Barcelona)
Leinster
Munster
Camuni (Milano)
Galeazze (Venezia)
Volpe (Torino)
Brython Thunders (Llanelli)
Gwalia Lightning (Cardiff)
Edinburgh
Zhar-ptitsy (Москва́)

EPCR WOMEN'S CHALLENGE CUP
Tarasques (Montpellier)
Espigas (Valladolid)
Ginetas (Málaga)
Garduñas (Santiago de Compostela)
Kelteded (Rennes)
Airone (Firenze)
Medicanes (Roma; Lazio, Umbria, Marche, Southern Italy and Malta)
Wolfhounds (Ulster y Connacht)
Glasgow Warriors
Tatars (Kazan)
Tulpen (Amsterdam)
Zeelieden (Rotterdam)
Luisitanas (Lisboa)
Lionesses (Flanders)
Nordic Valkyres (Suecia)
Adler (Germany)

EUROPEAN WOMEN'S SHIELD
Bourguignonnes (Dijon)
Les Fées (Nancy; Grand Est and Hauts-de-France)
Grandelles (Andorra)
Taronges (Valencia)
Siberians (Krasnoyarsk)
Cachenas (Porto)
Flames (Vallonie and Luxembourg)
Lynxes (Balcans states)
Vildsvin (Denmark)
Auroras (Finland)
Amber Warriors (Baltic states)
Dacians (Romania and Bulgaria)
Lindens (Czech Republic and Slovakia)
Krakens (Norway and Iceland)
Alpines (Switzerland and Austria)
Borjgalosnebi (Georgia)

See also:
EUROPEAN WOMEN'S CHAMPIOSN CUP:
FRA: 4, ITA: 3, GBEC: 2, IRL: 2, WAL: 2, SCO: 1, ESP: 1, RUS: 1

EPCR WOMEN'S CHALLENGE CUP:
FRA: 1, ITA: 2, GBEC: 2, IRL: 1, SCO: 1, ESP: 2, RUS:1, NED: 2, BEL: 1, DEU: 1, POR: 1, SWE: 1

EUROPEAN WOMEN'S SHIELD
FRA: 2, GBEC: 1 (Andorra), ESP: 1, RUS: 1, BEL: 1, POR: 1, CRO: 1, CZE: 1, DEN: 1, FIN: 1, GEO: 1, LET: 1, NOR: 1, ROM: 1, SWI: 1

LIGUE GalBrEusCat (GBEC)
GBEC-1
CRAT (Galiza)
Stade Rennais (Brittanny)
AS Bayonnais (Basque Country)
Eibar RT (Basque Country)
Getxo RT (Basque Country)
FC Barcelona (Catalonia)
USA Perpignan (Catalonia)
CR Sant Cugat (Catalonia)

GBEC-2 (10 teams)

 

[Which Tyler]

Do you think there should be a women's Champions/Challenge Cup for Domestic European/South Africa sides? If so, which countries should have teams and how many, who would be the strongest sides, and how do the leagues compare?

Now that Ireland have a domestic set-up, I think a Champ Cup would be a good call.
French, English and Irish.
I don't know enough about the French or Irish set ups to comment on which teams, or favourites etc, though I'd expect Hartpury to be well up there challenging for the ***le.

Invite the Welsh, Scots and Italians as and when they develop a professional domestic game.

South Africa aren't on the continent of Europe, and shouldn't be involved in European rugby, for either gender.

 

[GalBrEusCat]

A small modification... (on red)

EUROPEAN WOMEN'S CHAMPIOSN CUP
Amazones (Bourdeaux)
Chatares (Toulouse)
Écureuil (Paris)
Montagnerdes (Lyon)
Osas (Madrid)
Sorginak (Donostia)
Trencalossas (Barcelona)
Leinster
Munster
Camuni (Milano)
Galeazze (Venezia)
Volpe (Torino)
Brython Thunders (Llanelli)
Gwalia Lightning (Cardiff)
Edinburgh
Zhar-ptitsy (Москва́)

EPCR WOMEN'S CHALLENGE CUP
Tarasques (Montpellier)
Espigas (Valladolid)
Ginetas (Málaga)
Garduñas (Santiago de Compostela)
Kelteded (Rennes)
Airone (Firenze)
Medicanes (Roma; Lazio, Umbria, Marche, Southern Italy and Malta)
Wolfhounds (Ulster y Connacht)
Glasgow Warriors
Tatars (Kazan)
Tulpen (Amsterdam)
Zeelieden (Rotterdam)
Luisitanas (Lisboa)
Lionesses (Flanders)
Nordic Valkyres (Suecia)
Adler (Germany)

EUROPEAN WOMEN'S SHIELD
Bourguignonnes (Dijon)
Les Fées (Nancy; Grand Est and Hauts-de-France)
Grandelles (Andorra)
Taronges (Valencia)
Siberians (Krasnoyarsk)
Cachenas (Porto)
Flames (Vallonie and Luxembourg)
Lynxes (Balcans states)
Vildsvin (Denmark)
Auroras (Finland)
Amber Warriors (Baltic states)
Dacians (Romania and Bulgaria)
Lindens (Czech Republic and Slovakia)
Krakens (Norway and Iceland)
Alpines (Switzerland and Austria)
Borjgalosnebi (Georgia)

See also:
EUROPEAN WOMEN'S CHAMPIOSN CUP:
FRA: 4, ITA: 3, GBEC: 2, IRL: 2, WAL: 2, SCO: 1, ESP: 1, RUS: 1

EPCR WOMEN'S CHALLENGE CUP:
FRA: 1, ITA: 2, GBEC: 2, IRL: 1, SCO: 1, ESP: 2, RUS:1, NED: 2, BEL: 1, DEU: 1, POR: 1, SWE: 1

EUROPEAN WOMEN'S SHIELD
FRA: 2, GBEC: 1 (Andorra), ESP: 1, RUS: 1, BEL: 1, POR: 1, CRO: 1, CZE: 1, DEN: 1, FIN: 1, GEO: 1, LET: 1, NOR: 1, ROM: 1, SWI: 1

LIGUE GalBrEusCat (GBEC)
GBEC-1
CRAT (Galiza)
Stade Rennais (Brittanny)
AS Bayonnais (Basque Country)
Eibar RT (Basque Country)
Getxo RT (Basque Country)
FC Barcelona (Catalonia)
USA Perpignan (Catalonia)
CR Sant Cugat (Catalonia)

GBEC-2 (10 teams)

EUROPEAN WOMEN'S CHAMPIOSN CUP
Amazones (Bourdeaux)
Chatares (Toulouse)
Écureuil (Paris)
Montagnerdes (Lyon)
Osas (Madrid)
Sorginak (Donostia)
Trencalossas (Barcelona)
Leinster
Munster
Camuni (Milano)
Galeazze (Venezia)
Volpe (Torino)
Brython Thunders (Llanelli)
Gwalia Lightning (Cardiff)
Edinburgh
Zhar-ptitsy (Москва́)

EPCR WOMEN'S CHALLENGE CUP
Tarasques (Montpellier)
Espigas (Valladolid)
Ginetas (Málaga)
Garduñas (Santiago de Compostela)
Kelteded (Rennes)
Airone (Firenze)
Medicanes (Roma; Lazio, Umbria, Marche, Southern Italy and Malta)
Wolfhounds (Ulster y Connacht)
Glasgow Warriors
Tatars (Kazan)
Tulpen (Amsterdam)
Zeelieden (Rotterdam)
Luisitanas (Lisboa)
Lionesses (Flanders)
Valkyrior (Stockhom)
Adler (Germany)

EUROPEAN WOMEN'S SHIELD
Bourguignonnes (Dijon)
Les Fées (Nancy; Grand Est and Hauts-de-France)
Grandelles (Andorra)
Taronginas (Valencia)
Siberians (Krasnoyarsk)
Gautinnor (Göteborg)
Cachenas (Porto)
Flames (Vallonie and Luxembourg)
Lynxes (Balcans states)
Auroras (Finland)
Amber Warriors (Baltic states)
Dacians (Romania and Bulgaria)
Lindens (Czech Republic and Slovakia)
Krakens (Denmark and Norway)
Alpines (Switzerland and Austria)
Borjgalosnebi (Georgia)

See also:
EUROPEAN WOMEN'S CHAMPIOSN CUP:
FRA: 4, ITA: 3, GBEC: 2, IRL: 2, WAL: 2, SCO: 1, ESP: 1, RUS: 1

EPCR WOMEN'S CHALLENGE CUP:
FRA: 1, ITA: 2, GBEC: 2, IRL: 1, SCO: 1, ESP: 2, RUS:1, NED: 2, DEU: 1, POR: 1, BEL: 1, SWE: 1, DEU: 1

EUROPEAN WOMEN'S SHIELD
FRA: 2, GBEC: 1 (Andorra), ESP: 1, RUS: 1, POR: 1, BEL: 1, SWE: 1, CRO: 1, CZE: 1, FIN: 1, LET: 1, DEN: 1, ROM: 1, SWI: 1, GEO: 1

LIGUE GalBrEusCat (GBEC)
GBEC-1
CRAT (Galiza)
Stade Rennais (Brittanny)
AS Bayonnais (Basque Country)
Eibar RT (Basque Country)
Getxo RT (Basque Country)
FC Barcelona (Catalonia)
USA Perpignan (Catalonia)
CR Sant Cugat (Catalonia)

GBEC-2 (10 teams)
Santiago RC (Galiza)
Breizh'Barians (Brittanny)
SC Le Rheu (Brittanny)
Association Nantaise (Brittanny)
Gaztedi RT (Basque Country)
Universitario Bilbao (Basque Country)
Avenir Salanquais (Catalonia)
BUC (Catalonia)
Carboners (Catalonia)
UE Santboiana (Catalonia)

 

[GalBrEusCat]

EUROPEAN WOMEN'S CHAMPIOSN CUP
Bristol Bears
Exeter Chiefs
Gloucester-Hartpury
Saracens
Amazones (Bourdeaux)
Chatares (Toulouse)
Écureuiles (Paris)
Montagnerdes (Lyon)
Osas (Madrid)
Sorginak (Donostia)
Trencalossas (Barcelona)
Leinster
Munster
Camuni (Milano)
Galeazze (Venezia)
Volpe (Torino)
Brython Thunders (Llanelli)
Gwalia Lightning (Cardiff)
Edinburgh
Zhar-ptitsy (Москва́)

EPCR WOMEN'S CHALLENGE CUP
Ealing Trailfinders
Harlequins
Loughborough Lightning
Tarasques (Montpellier)
Espigas (Valladolid)
Ginetas (Málaga)
Garduñas (Santiago de Compostela)
Kelteded (Rennes)
Airone (Firenze)
Medicanes (Roma)
Ulster
Glasgow Warriors
Tatars (Kazan)
Tulpen (Amsterdam)
Zeelieden (Rotterdam)
Lusitanas (Lisboa)
Lionesses (Flanders)
Valkyrior (Stockhom)
Adler (Germany)
Auroras (Finland)

EUROPEAN WOMEN'S SHIELD - WESTERN CONFERENCE
Leicester Tigers
Sale Sharks
Darlington Mowden
Bourguignonnes (Dijon)
Les Fées (Nancy)
Connacht
Caledonia Reds (Aberdeen)
Ospreys
Trinacrias (Napoli and Malta)
Grandelles (Andorra)
Taronginas (València)
Cachenas (Porto)
Flames (Vallonie and Luxembourg)
Krakens (Norway and Iceland)
Hildisvínene (Denmark)
Edelweiss (Switzerland)

EUROPEAN WOMEN'S SHIELD - EASTERN CONFERENCE
Siberians (Krasnoyarsk and Kazakhstan)
Gautinnor (Göteborg)
Lynxes (Croatia)
Amber Warriors (Baltic states)
Dacians (Romania and Moldavia)
Lynxes (Balcans states)
Lindens (Czech Republic and Slovakia)
Steinböcken (Austria)
Borjgalosnebi (Georgia)
Bizony (Poland)
Kozachky (Ukraine)
Ay Yıldızlar (Turkey)
Рози (Bulgaria)
Szarvastehenek (Hungary)
(Israel) תל
Γοργόνες (Greece)

 

[GalBrEusCat]

EUROPEAN WOMEN'S CHAMPIOSN CUP
Bristol Bears
Exeter Chiefs
Gloucester-Hartpury
Saracens
Amazones (Bourdeaux)
Chatares (Toulouse)
Écureuiles (Paris)
Montagnerdes (Lyon)
Osas (Madrid)
Sorginak (Donostia)
Trencalossas (Barcelona)
Leinster
Munster
Camuni (Milano)
Galeazze (Venezia)
Volpe (Torino)
Brython Thunders (Llanelli)
Gwalia Lightning (Cardiff)
Edinburgh
Zhar-ptitsy (Москва́)

EPCR WOMEN'S CHALLENGE CUP
Ealing Trailfinders
Harlequins
Loughborough Lightning
Tarasques (Montpellier)
Espigas (Valladolid)
Ginetas (Málaga)
Garduñas (Santiago de Compostela)
Kelteded (Rennes)
Airone (Firenze)
Medicanes (Roma)
Ulster
Glasgow Warriors
Tatars (Kazan)
Tulpen (Amsterdam)
Zeelieden (Rotterdam)
Lusitanas (Lisboa)
Lionesses (Flanders)
Valkyrior (Stockhom)
Adler (Germany)
Auroras (Finland)

EUROPEAN WOMEN'S SHIELD - WESTERN CONFERENCE
Leicester Tigers
Sale Sharks
Darlington Mowden
Bourguignonnes (Dijon)
Les Fées (Nancy)
Connacht
Caledonia Reds (Aberdeen)
Ospreys
Trinacrias (Napoli and Malta)
Grandelles (Andorra)
Taronginas (València)
Cachenas (Porto)
Flames (Vallonie and Luxembourg)
Krakens (Norway and Iceland)
Hildisvínene (Denmark)
Edelweiss (Switzerland)

EUROPEAN WOMEN'S SHIELD - EASTERN CONFERENCE
Siberians (Krasnoyarsk and Kazakhstan)
Gautinnor (Göteborg)
Lynxes (Croatia)
Amber Warriors (Baltic states)
Dacians (Romania and Moldavia)
Lynxes (Balcans states)
Lindens (Czech Republic and Slovakia)
Steinböcken (Austria)
Borjgalosnebi (Georgia)
Bizony (Poland)
Kozachky (Ukraine)
Ay Yıldızlar (Turkey)
Рози (Bulgaria)
Szarvastehenek (Hungary)
(Israel) תל
Γοργόνες (Greece)

First seasons:
16+16+16
...
Some years later:
20+20+(2x16)

 

[GalBrEusCat]

...and rest of the World:

Super Women's Rugby Pacific (9-12 teams)
+ From Super Rugby Women:
Brumbies
Fijiana Drua
Rebels (they will not compete in the Super Rugby Women's in 2025)
Reds
Waratahs
Western Force
+ From Super Rugby Aupiki:
Blues Women
Chiefs Women
Hurricanes Poua
Matatū (Canterbury+Otago+Tasman)
+ Expansion: Moana Pasifika

Super Women's North American (9-12 teams)
+ From Canada:
BC Bears (British Columbia)
Ontario Blues
The Rock (Quebec)
Prairie Wolf Pack (Alberta)
+ From USA:
Pacific Cougars (Berkeley All Blues, Life Wae Gladiatrix, Oregons SU, San Diego Surfers)
Central Raptors (Chicago North Shore, Colorado Gray Wolves, Twin Cities Amazons, Minnesota Valkyries)
Eastern Hawks (Beantow RFC, New York RC, DC Furies, Keystone RC)
South Panthers (Atlanta Harlequins, USA Rugby South)
+ Expansion:
Jaguares (México, Costa Rica, Guatemala, Panamá, El Salvador)
Caribbean Select (Trinidad & Tobago, Jamaica, Guyana, Cayman Islands, Barbados, St Vincent & the Grenadines, Bahamas, French Guiana, Saint Lucia, Dominican Republic, Bermuda and Turks & Caicos Islands)

Super Rugby Americas Femenino (8-10 equipos)
Yaguaretés XV (Argentina)
Yaras XV (Brasil)
Cóndores XV (Chile)
Tucanes XV (Colombia)
Yacarés XV (Paraguay)
Tumis (Perú)
Teritas (Uruguay)
Orquídeas (Venezuela)
+ Expansion:
Yaguaretés XV (Argentina) => Pampas XV (URBA) and Ceibos XV (Córdoba and Tucumán)
Yaras XV (Brasil) => Boiúnas XV (Brasilia) and Sabiás XV (Região Sudeste)

South Africa (active)
Women's Premier Division
Boland Dames
Border Ladies
Bulls Daisies
Eastern Province Queens
Free State Women
Golden Lions Women
Sharks Women
Western Province

Women's First Division
Limpopo Blue Bulls Women
Griffons Women
Griauas Women
Leopards Women
Pumas Women
SWD Eagirs
Valke Women
Simba Queens (Kenya)