Wales (The Gatland returns thread)

[Welsh Exile]

Good to see Lloyd leaving the player graveyard that is the scarlets. Shame he's going to Cardiff, would've rathered he went to Ospreys but he's better than Sheedy so hopefully he gets the 10 jersey more often than not at Cardiff.

 

[dirty harry]

This is such a sad signing, I had my heart set on Hawkins Coming to Cardiff, that looks off now.

Lloyd is still too wild, doesn't have a kicking boot, isn't capable of controlling games and just coughs up field position for fun.

For all of Sheedys faults, mostly defencive and goal kicking he doesn't half make life easy for the 9 and centres.

Cardiffs try conversion rate when in the 22 has been great this season, and has been the difference between a lot of LBPs last year and a few more wins this year.

I'd prefer to have stuck with Sheedy and De beer next year, saved the money for a tighthead, lock or ball carrier.

 

[Welsh Exile]

This is such a sad signing, I had my heart set on Hawkins Coming to Cardiff, that looks off now.

Lloyd is still too wild, doesn't have a kicking boot, isn't capable of controlling games and just coughs up field position for fun.

For all of Sheedys faults, mostly defencive and goal kicking he doesn't half make life easy for the 9 and centres.

Cardiffs try conversion rate when in the 22 has been great this season, and has been the difference between a lot of LBPs last year and a few more wins this year.

I'd prefer to have stuck with Sheedy and De beer next year, saved the money for a tighthead, lock or ball carrier.

Hawkins should still be coming back to Wales though hopefully. I agree you probably have more pressing concerns (especially when Ben Thomas can cover 10 as well) but from a neutral/wales POV I'm glad he's left scarlets and he's better than Sheedy.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Could Lloyd move back to 15? He was always way better there for Bristol,
No idea why he's landed at 10 - definitely feels like it's something he's demanded rather than where he's best

 

[dirty harry]

Hawkins should still be coming back to Wales though hopefully. I agree you probably have more pressing concerns (especially when Ben Thomas can cover 10 as well) but from a neutral/wales POV I'm glad he's left scarlets and he's better than Sheedy.

Wales yes, Cardiff wouldn't make sense now though, with Sheedy, Lloyd, Thomas. Unless he wanted to focus on 12, Leelo can't play on forever lol.

I still think your underestimating what sheedy is bringing to the team, his crossfield alone has assisted 4 tries this season, he has assisted 9, and we have scored in the 15m channel twice as much this season compared to last. That's a 10s doing. We've also scored of set peice more this season than last (maul not included).

I get he's small, and defensively costing us a bit, but it's hard to slate him too much when sitting in a home tie playoff position currently.

 

[dirty harry]

Could Lloyd move back to 15? He was always way better there for Bristol,
No idea why he's landed at 10 - definitely feels like it's something he's demanded rather than where he's best

Didn't he state he was leaving Bears specifically to nail a q0 position. That's why everyone was stunned when he signed for the only region with a nailed on 10 already lol.

 

[Bluemoon]

Good to see Lloyd leaving the player graveyard that is the scarlets. Shame he's going to Cardiff, would've rathered he went to Ospreys but he's better than Sheedy so hopefully he gets the 10 jersey more often than not at Cardiff.

He's better than Sheedy in an individual running attack maybe, imagine they are both equally bad in defence and kicking %. Sheedy fell apart against the Ospreys and that's been coming for a while. Lloyd was really poor for scarlets at 15 against Cardiff so I don't want him in that position either if he joins. Particularly with Cam and Beetham covering there.

For me, De Beer is much better than Lloyd. I am pretty gutted that Lloyd is our target 10 at the moment and the rumour is that De beer is on the way out.

 

[dirty harry]

He's better than Sheedy in an individual running attack maybe, imagine they are both equally bad in defence and kicking %. Sheedy fell apart against the Ospreys and that's been coming for a while. Lloyd was really poor for scarlets at 15 against Cardiff so I don't want him in that position either if he joins. Particularly with Cam and Beetham covering there.

For me, De Beer is much better than Lloyd. I am pretty gutted that Lloyd is our target 10 at the moment and the rumour is that De beer is on the way out.

Dragons apparently, but I've heard he has an offer from a D2 club also. Wouldn't blame him, he wasn't bad last season, and has been forced to play 2nd fiddle this season, I was hoping he would kick on