<div class='quotemain'> maybe its a time thing. as in time between each time you try to keep hands in the ruck. every time i play a mate i hold on to the ball for a while till me defence gets set again then release befor i get penalised. every now and then when i need to i keep my hands in the ruck and it turns the ball over i never get penilised. i only do it maybe three times a game. sometimes after holding it in and releasing they cant even pass it out and it goes to a scrum. i dont know why but am also trying to figure it out. hopefully this helps a little bit. [/b]
Ok after playing my mate Doug a bit pretty much what you explained K Pac is the ay how it goes.....almost.
Doug says there is a time to go for it. He says that everytime he makes a tackle he presses the join ruck button a few times very quickly and then holds the ball in...this is done very quickly because he needs to get to the holding of the ball button before they pass it out.
He then WATCHES the animation to see if his players are piling into the ruck more than the opposition and if they are doing it quicker. If his players are taking their time and just standing there......then he gears up to let the ball go and defend another movement. If however the players are joining the ruck quickly then he continues to hold the ball in and uses his other hand to push the join the ruck button to get everyone in. Then he lets it go and clicks it again to use the hands in the ruck action. This he believes causes a turnover....HOWEVER....he believes it is also helped by a few other factors.
- a tackle made out in the backline
- when he is defending heavily on his own line
- when the opposition are trying to clear from their own line
Basically Doug says that after a few hundred thousand penalties you get the hang of when it does not work....very much like when you have possession....you know that getting tackled in certain places will make you hold or lose possession. Doug reckons that it is simply EXPERIENCE and learning to sense when you can do it or not....and that the best way to learn when it works or not is to do it at EVERY ruck. Eventually after being penalised a few million times you learn from the times you DO actually turn over how and when it does work....you just have to go through a whole lot of penalties trying to find when the hotspots happen. He says that after a while you will see a similar pattern happening with the times it does work and be able to recognise it and therfore go for it. you will also know when it is not going to happen and therefore let go of the ball and get ready to defend the next movement.
[/b][/quote] yeah ive been doing this to ill choose a defence and hold the ball in. i have been going over the replays and it always turns over with out a penelty if i have five players in the ruck when theres only four players in the ruck for the oposition. (this is what i have found out for the ps2 version)
by the way im holding in the defence selector as well as holding in the ball.
