The Official TRF International Shield

[Conal]

so its like a series
from the end of every world cup to the start of the next is one trf cup series

 

[TRF_Ezequiel]

So before the World Cup starts, the holder of the Shield is declared the 2011 winner?

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

So before the World Cup starts, the holder of the Shield is declared the 2011 winner?

I'd say the country who held it longest.? With them getting a 'plaque' for that 4 year cycle.

 

[TRF_Cymro]

Current Standings in the last 4 years:

New Zealand - 4
South Africa - 4
Australia - 3
England - 1
France - 1

 

[Shaggy]

Okay, some, including my better half have said that i'm slightly obsessive ... but here is the current history of all 46 games to date compiled by me from mostly these sites ... you will note that it's not always the dominant team that is he current holder

http://www.rugbymuseum.co.nz/testrecords
http://www.supersport.com/rugby/springboks/results
http://www.rugby.com.au/qantas_wallabies/fixtures_results

20 October 2007 England 6 - 15 South Africa, St Denis, France (2007 World Cup final)

24 November 2007 Wales 12 - 34 South Africa, Millennium Stadium, Cardiff, Wales

7 June 2008 South Africa 43 - 17 Wales Vodacom Park, Bloemfontein, South Africa

14 June 2008 South Africa 37 - 21 Wales Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria, South Africa

21 June 2008 South Africa 26 - 0 Italy Newlands, Cape Town, South Africa

5 July 2008 New Zealand 19 - 8 South Africa, Westpac Stadium, Wellington, New Zealand

12 July 2008 New Zealand 28 - 30 South Africa, Carisbrook Stadium, Dunedin, New Zealand

19 July 2008 Australia 16 - 9 South Africa, Subiaco Oval, Perth, Australia

26 July 2008 Australia 34 - 19 New Zealand, ANZ Stadium, Sydney, Australia

02 August 2008 New Zealand 39 - 10 Australia, Eden Park, Auckland, New Zealand

16 August 2008 New Zealand 19 - 0 South Africa,Newlands, Cape Town, South Africa

3 September 2008 New Zealand 101 - 14 Samoa,Yarrow Stadium, New Plymouth, New Zealand

13 September 2008 New Zealand 28 - 24 Australia, Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane, Australia

1 November 2008 New Zealand 19 - 14 Australia, Hong Kong Stadium, Hong Kong, China

8 November 2008 New Zealand 32 - 6 Scotland, Murrayfield, Edinburgh, Scotland

15 November 2008 New Zealand 22 - 3 Ireland, Croke Park, Dublin, Ireland

22 November 2008 New Zealand 29 - 9 Wales, Millennium Stadium, Cardiff, Wales

29 November 2008 New Zealand 32 - 6 England, Twickenham, London, England

13 June 2009 New Zealand 22 - 27 France, Carisbrook, Dunedin, New Zealand

20 June 2009 New Zealand 14 - 10 France, Westpac Stadium, Wellington, New Zealand

27 June 2009 New Zealand 27 - 6 Italy, AMI Stadium, Christchurch, New Zealand

18 July 2009 New Zealand 22 - 16 Australia, Eden Park, Auckland, New Zealand

25 July 2009 New Zealand 19 - 28 South Africa, Free State Stadium, Bloemfontein, South Africa

1 August 2009 South Africa 31 - 19 New Zealand, The Absa Stadium, Durban, South Africa

8 August 2009 South Africa 29 - 17 Australia, Newlands Stadium, Cape Town, South Africa

29 August 2009 Australia 25 - 32 South Africa, Subiaco Oval, Perth, Australia

5 September 2009 Australia 21 - 6 South Africa, Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane, Australia

19 September 2009 New Zealand 33 - 6 Australia, Westpac Stadium, Wellington, New Zealand

31 October 2009 New Zealand 32 - 19 Australia, National Stadium, Tokyo, Japan

7 November 2009 New Zealand 19 - 12 Wales, Millennium Stadium, Cardiff, Wales

14 November 2009 New Zealand 20 - 6 Italy, Stadio Giuseppe Meazza, Milan, Italy

21 November 2009 New Zealand 19 - 6 England, Twickenham, London, England

28 November 2009 New Zealand 39 - 12 France, Stade Vélodrome, Marseilles, France

12 June 2010 New Zealand 66 - 28 Ireland, Yarrow Stadium, New Plymouth, New Zealand

19 June 2010 New Zealand 42 - 9 Wales, Carisbrook, Dunedin, New Zealand

26 June 2010 New Zealand 29 - 10 Wales, Waikato Stadium, Hamilton, New Zealand

10 July 2010 New Zealand 32 - 12 South Africa, Eden Park, Auckland, New Zealand

17 July 2010 New Zealand 31 - 17 South Africa, Westpac Stadium, Wellington, New Zealand

31 July 2010 New Zealand 49 - 28 Australia, Eithad Stadium, Melbourne, Australia

7 August 2010 New Zealand 20 - 10 Australia, AMI Stadium, Christchurch, New Zealand

21 August 2010 New Zealand 29 - 22 South Africa, National Stadium, Johannesburg, South Africa

11 September2010 New Zealand 23 - 22 Australia, ANZ Stadium, Sydney, Australia

30 October 2010 New Zealand 24 - 26 Australia, Hong Kong Stadium, Hong Kong, China

06 November 2010 Wales 16 - 25 Australia, Millennium Stadium, Cardiff, Wales

13 November 2010 England 35 - 18 Australia, Twickenham, London, England

27 November 2010 England 11 - 21 South Africa, Twickenham, London, England

 

[Shaggy]

Lets assume SA hold onto it until the WC now.

In the group stage they could then draw all of their group games and fail to progress, but because they've not been beaten they can't lose the shield. Therefore someone else wins the World Cup but doesn't hold the shield.

Unlike that other thing which goes around, the TRF shield tracks the "World Champion" after the tournament is over, as though it were a boxing-belt where it's up for grabs every match thereafter.

Yes, there's also the remote possibility that a current holder might not qualify for the RWC, for example a second tier nation wins it from a first tier nation, who then loses it to a third tier nation that hasn't qualified for the RWC ... while the third tier nation is a legitimate holder, the objective of syncing it with the RWC champion every four years would fail.

... not sure if there needs to be an overall winner for the TRF shield for the four year period, it's probably enough to have a current Champion/holder, and maybe a record of the most successful defenses etc

 

[Teh Mite]

That's a stats game that people can play with themselves!

For those interested, the page has been updated:
http://www.therugbyforum.com/features/trf-international-shield?time=1291972797

 

[Faatau82]

It'd be so funny if in an interview, after a 'a TRF ***le match' if when asked where this performance came from today, the winning captain replied..

'Today was a special day for our nation, we needed no motivation today.. we knew what was at stake. It doesn't get bigger than the TRF International Shield. This was our RWC Final.'

 

[matjam]

maybe HB should include this in Rugby 2012

 

[Feicarsinn]

I think TRF has been mentioned here, if not by name directly.

TRF International Shield FTW!

 

[TRF_Olyy]

I'm not sure I follow?

 

[Feicarsinn]

Crud. Forgot the link.

http://www.espnscrum.com/worldcup/rugby/story/134739.html

 

[Conal]

should we have a raeburn sheild thread then (or rename this one) as its the same idea but its been running longer than trf one?

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Blatantly stole the idea from us (and evidently stole my time machine too...)

 

[Conal]

thieving ********!

 

[Getofmeland]

Anyone got the updated list?

 

[TRF_Cymro]

Australia 39 v 20 South Africa (Tri Nations), ANZ Stadium, Syndey Australia (23/7/2011)
New Zealand 30 v 14 Australia (Tri Nations), Eden Park, Auckland, New Zealand (6/8/2011)

 

[SelimNiai]

Australia 39 v 20 South Africa (Tri Nations), ANZ Stadium, Syndey Australia (23/7/2011)
New Zealand 30 v 14 Australia (Tri Nations), Eden Park, Auckland, New Zealand (6/8/2011)

So it stays like that 'till the WC QF then

 

[Getofmeland]

Nope come World Cup time, the tournament is frozen... Then the winner of the World Cup becomes the Shield Holder at the end...

 

[TRF_Cymro]

Portal Page Updated: http://www.therugbyforum.com/features/trf-international-shield