The Injuries Thread

Seaton · Aug 29, 2011

Alright, a thread to keep all TRFers up to date on injuries for any and every team participating in the world cup.

The world cup warm-ups and Tri-Nations have already taken their toll, with several players having been ruled out or in doubt for the tournament. Among them Ireland's David Wallace, New Zealands Kieran Read, Wales' Mathew Rees and Gethin Jenkins, all players that are, or rather were, expected to play big roles in the New Zealand showpiece.

So, who have I missed?

TRF_Olyy · Aug 29, 2011

Danny Care (England) with a broken toe

Jockstap · Aug 29, 2011

Has Kieran Read been ruled out, that's a massive loss if true?

Seaton · Aug 29, 2011

He hasn't been ruled out, haven't seen an update on him yet, but initial concerns were that he was a doubt.

TRF_stormer2010 · Aug 29, 2011

Jenkins for Wales is a big loss. Has Read been confirmed as not available due to injury? I thought Adam Thomson was the more serious injury concern?

What is the situation regarding Drew Mitchell? I've heard different and conflicting stories.

For SA, for those that don't know, players who would surely have been in the RWC except for injury include Juan Smith and Andries Bekker. Some players are still under an injury cloud but have been named in the squad and should be ready; Schalk Burger, Francois Steyn.

TRF_Olyy · Aug 29, 2011

Wait, when was Gethin Jenkins ruled out?
I thought he was expected back for the second pool game?

Drew Mitchell is back and fit, I believe - played a few games in the Shute Shield, and then against Canada for the Aussie BaaBaas

Thingimubob · Aug 29, 2011

As far as I know Jenkins has only been ruled out of the South Africa game and is aiming for the Samoa one to be back playing. Pity, could really use him vs SA!

psychic duck · Aug 29, 2011

Unavailable players for the 2011 World Cup

New Zealand

Luke McAlister withdrew himself from being considered and opted to join Toulouse early.

France

Thomas Domingo failed to recover sufficiently from knee ligament damage sustained in April to make it in time, despite being named in the 33 man initial squad.

Yohan Huget was withdrawn from the 33 man initial after missing three consecutive drugs tests and has since been banned for three months.

Tonga

Sitaleki Timani was named in the 50 man initial squad but withdrew himself and opted to play for Australia instead.

Steve Mafi and Mafile'o Kefu were both named in the 50 man initial squad but withdrew to play fortheir respective clubs.

Afa Pakalani and Cooper Vuna were also both named in the 50 man initial squad but both withdrew to stay eligible for Australia and protect their Super Rugby contracts.

Epi Taione, Hale T-Pole and Nili Latu were all still banned from the squad after a dispute over pay from the 2009 Pacific Nations Cup, there has since been controversy regarding the Tongan government demanding the return of Nili Latu but that is too long a story to go into detail here.

Canada

To all my knowledge, fully fit and available.

Japan

Christian Loamanu was still banned from the national side after testing positive for marijuana in 2009, coach John Kirwan made a proposal for Loamanu to be reinstated but it was rejected by the Japanese authorities.
Ryohei Yamanaka was banned for two years after testing positive for drugs, he claimed the positive test was due to a cream he was using to grow a moustache.

Argentina

Juan MartÃn HernÃ¡ndez was ruled out after failing to recover from a knee injury suffered in March.

Alberto Vernet Basualdo withdrew himself from the squad to play for his club.

Alvaro Galindo was ruled out after failing to recover from a thigh injury sustained in the Top 14 semi final in May, he was replaced in the final 30 man squad by Genaro Fessia.

England

Dave Attwood was ruled out of contention after injuring his knee in the Churchill Cup.

Danny Care was ruled out after suffering a broken toe in the second warm up match against Wales.

Scotland

Fergus Thomson withdrew from the 40 man initial squad due to a shoulder injury.

Hugo Southwell withdrew from the 40 man initial squad by mutual consent after failing to recover sufficiently from a knee injury.

Nikki Walker was ruled out after suffering a knee injury in the final warm up match against Italy.

Romania

Alex Manta retired from international rugby after Romania beat Uruguay to qualify.

Sorin Socol had a dispute with coach Romeo Gontineac and accused him of "dictatorial behaviour" and withdrew himself from the squad.

Australia

Mark Chisholm was ruled out of contention after suffering a knee injury.

Benn Robinson was ruled out after tearing an anterior cruciate ligament.

Richard Brown was also ruled out of contention after being forced to have shoulder surgery.

Ireland

Shane Horgan was ruled out contention after suffering a knee injury.

Nevin Spence and Ian Humphreys were not considered due to both having to undergo surgery.

Felix Jones was ruled out after suffering a foot injury in the second warm up match against France.

David Wallace was ruled out after injuring his knee after a tackle by Manu Tuilagi, he was replaced in the final 30 man squad by Shane Jennings.

Italy

Santiago DellapÃ¨ retired from international rugby to play solely for his club.

Craig Gower withdrew himself from the initial squad due to a knee ligament injury, he later retired from rugby union.

USA

Samu Manoa was named in the initial squad but withdrew to play for his club, he was publicly criticised by coach Eddie O'Sullivan for not alerting the team of the decision earlier.

Russia

Kirill Kulemin was ruled out after failing to recover from an injury suffered earlier in the year.

South Africa

Ricky Januarie retired from international rugby four days after the initial squad was named.

Andries Bekker was ruled out after injuring his ankle.

Juan Smith failed to recover in time from an achilles tendon injury.

Wales

Tom Prydie was ruled out of contention after suffering a knee injury.

Morgan Stoddart was ruled out after breaking his leg in the first warm up match against England.

Gavin Henson was ruled out after dislocating a bone in his wrist during the second warm up match against England.

Captain Matthew Rees was ruled out after failing to recover from a neck injury.

Fiji

Sireli Bobo, Josh Matavesi and Jone Qovu all pulled out of the initial 43 man squad to "focus on club commitments".

Semisi Naevo, Norman Ligairi, Kameli Ratuvou and Siva Ralaga all failed to regain fitness in time after suffering injuries earlier in the year.

Rupeni Caucaunibuca, Vilimoni Delasau, Isa Nacewa all declared themselves unavailable citing "personal reasons".

Henry Speight declared himself unavailable to protect his Super Rugby contract.

Samoa

Gavin Williams was ruled out after suffering knee ligament damage.

Alapati Leiua was named in the initial 54 man squad, but renounced his eligibility as he still hopes to play for New Zealand.

(I think Ahsee Tuala did the same as Leiua as he did not feature at all during the summer, but I'm not one hundred percent sure)

Henry Tuilagi was named in the initial squad but later retired from international rugby.

Namibia

Skipper Badenhorst was still unavailable from international rugby.

* Red and green names denote changes to the final 30 man squads which were named

Darwin · Aug 29, 2011

Just heard this morning that Read is expected to miss the first three pool games, and is targeting a return vs Canada. Adam Thomson is expected to only miss the first game vs Tonga.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/5530067/Read-Thomson-to-miss-first-World-Cup-games

psychic duck · Sep 14, 2011

Here are all the changes to the squads so far

snoopy snoopy dog dog

First XV

TRF Legend

Sep 14, 2011

#11

Jerry Flannery breaking down again is hardly a surprise. He's barely been fit since he was selected on the 2009 Lions tour. He must seriously be considering retirement at this stage since his body doesn't seem to be up to the rigours of top level rugby. It's a shame for him because he's had a good, successful career.

D

Draggs

Hall of Fame

TRF Legend

Sep 14, 2011

#12

Stephen Jones and Gethin Jenkins have been declared fit for the upcoming match against Samoa.
Only doubt is Ryan Jones, who is expected to be fit for the final Pool match against Fiji.

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munstermuffin

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Sep 14, 2011

#13

snoopy snoopy dog dog said:
Jerry Flannery breaking down again is hardly a surprise. He's barely been fit since he was selected on the 2009 Lions tour. He must seriously be considering retirement at this stage since his body doesn't seem to be up to the rigours of top level rugby. It's a shame for him because he's had a good, successful career.

Big questions will be asked now too Snoop as it's the exact same problem and well knowing as I worked with Jerry in his rehab over the summer he didn't rush it and everything was done correctly it seems the calf just isn't working