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  1. TRF Mr Fish

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    I don't rate McCartney above ITM level anyway.

    Good to see the Blues potentially picking up MacDonald - I'd have enjoyed having him at the Chiefs, but we have two very good hookers already.
     
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  3. Larksea

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    I think this is the full squad minus wider training group players:

    BLUES SQUAD


    Backs: Outside backs: Frank Halai, Waisake Naholo, Charles Piutau, Rene Ranger, Marty McKenzie. Centres: Malakai Fekitoa, George Moala, Francis Saili, Jackson Willison. First-fives: Baden Kerr, Chris Noakes. Halfbacks: Bryn Hall, Piri Weepu, Jamison Gibson-Park.


    Forwards: Flankers: Kane Barrett, Luke Braid, Steven Luatua, Brendon O'Connor, Ronald Raaymakers, Peter Saili. Locks: Anthony Boric, Liaki Moli, Culum Retallick, Ali Williams. Props: Charlie Faumuina, Tom McCartney, Tim Perry, Angus Ta'avao, Ofa Tu'ungafasi. Hookers: Keven Mealamu, Quentin MacDonald, James Parsons

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    strange seeing a blues squad with only 6 All Blacks, only three of them being current All Blacks.

    Usually the blues squad can roll out 13 All Blacks in a starting 15. and even have a one or two on the bench.

    Happy to see Boric is included and will play. I still think he's one of NZ's best locks.

    Though the squad does lack for big names with the balance of Rugby Power in the north moving south of the bombay hills. This squad does have some serious talent and classy young players.

    Moli - starting to look really good in the ITM cup, was the backbone of the Auckland pack effort.
    Charles Piutau - A standout ITM cup player and right up there in terms of potential and impact on the ITM cup as a whole as Ardie Savea was for wellington.
    Steven Luatua - Probably only a matter of time till he has All Black in his CV, one positive to come out of the Blues 2012 effort.
    Kane Barrett - Young, Big and looked pretty awesome for the Naki at times.
    Ofa Tu'ungafasi - actually looks like he will be able to do more than just hold his own as a huge young prop
    Malakai Fekitoa - just 20 and apparently was Aucklands best defensive player in the ITM cup, more than solid on attack as well.

    On a side note I hope we get to see a lot of Quentin MacDonald, he had one massive game for the Crusaders last year but for some reason it was not enough for him to get more gametime ahead of Flynn.

    few missed chances with the squad. Lost out on Nonu but they did manage to pickup Jackson Willison who looked superb during the last half of Waikato's ITM cup and has been unlucky not to get mroe gametime at the chiefs.

    Strange not to see Sean Polwart, I thought he had some massive games for Auckland recently. wondering where he is going now? maybe wider training group....

    What ever way I look at it cutting Anscombe was a bad idea. Simple fact is Nokes and Kerr just dont seem to me to have the class or potential of Anscombe.
     
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    Looks like a few Tongans in the squad. Looking forward to seeing them in action next year, like you said there's a few exciting young prospects in there.

    Time for John Kirwan to start his quest for the All Blacks coaching role.


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    Interestingly, the Blues didn't pick Willison in their 28 protected players, so he still could've gone to the Chiefs. Rennie, JK and Willison decided amongst themselves that Willison would be best off going to the Blues in the end.

    Top 22:
    1 Tu'ungafasi
    2 Mealamu
    3 Faumuina
    4 Boric
    5 Williams
    6 Luatua
    7 Braid
    8 Barrett
    9 Weepu
    10 Kerr
    11 Ranger
    12 Willison
    13 Saili
    14 Halai
    15 Piatau
    16 MacDonald
    17 Perry
    18 Moli
    19 O'Connor
    20 Gibson-Park
    21 Noakes
    22 McKenzie
     
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    From what I have read previously, the Blues are considering McCartney as a prop first and foremost...

    I hope that Fekitoa is the starting centre. That young guy is pure class.

    I'm tipping Ranger for a big year next year.

    Have to say, I haven't been thsi excited about a Blues season/team in years!
    I think the combination of young talent, and the coaching team (incl Henry) is an exciting prospect
     
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    I disagree with the above comment about Kerr, he was the difference for Counties this year. Pure class in the kicking department and hes the kind of player to let his outsides shine unlike previous greedy/**** first fives we had
     
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    yeah personally I don't like the idea of McCartney as a prop and currently he is the first choice loose head prop in the squad - considering they do have three specialist hookers.

    One thing is that he will be able to focus on his role as a loosehead prop and forget his duties as hooker, may help him lift his game in that area. Train more specifically.

    As per above I expect to see Fekitoa get lots of game time at 13. Will be a juggle managing all the guys under 22-23 who are pretty new to super rugby.

    Would also be good to see ranger focus 100% on playing left wing, they seem to have enough midfield cover. the problem being none of the midfield guys are truly proven super rugby players. If Willison gets injured and another guys struggles. Could see pressure on Ranger to fill in. Hope it doesn't happen.

    Coaches and trainers are going to play a MAJOR role, such a young group with huge potential. Get these guys at their peak both mind and body for kickoff next year and they blues will make the finals and we will see some new All Blacks from the blues. But it could easily go the other way.
     
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    Mccartney was tried at prop/hooker and was horrible to watch.
     
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    Yep, don't think he's good enough for SR in either position, to be honest.
     
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    wtf no Ben Lam? Are these people insane, outside of Piutau he was the best player for Auckland, I can't understand why they wouldn't pick him. He's one of the hardest working wingers I've seen, he has great strength and speed and scored some great tries this year
     
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    Meh, Ben Lam I thought was pretty average to be honest. Much better wingers have missed out.
     
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    I think Retalick is one of their best pick ups - he was great for the Chiefs in 2010, then was given no game time in 2011...
     
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    It's taken me a few hours to get over this...squad.

    The decision to let go of Anscombe will be one, I hope they don't regret. Along with the current youthful backs, they could've built them up for 2014/2015 as well.

    And no Daniel Braid?!? That hurts...

    That said - it's a new start. Bring on 2013.
     
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    surely dropping anscombe was more political than on form, i'm 90% sure he will end up a better player than Kerr or Nokes

    had to have something to do with off field action of Gareth or his old man.

    I agree with Invictus as well, Retalick has had some really good performances at super rugby and is maybe unlucky not to have had more chances over the last couple of years - could turn out to be a really good asset. Though it's likely he will start out as #4 lock in the pecking order but the track record of Williams and Boric in terms of injuries means he will surely get a good shot at some point.
     
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    Any names? Ben Lam was better than a number of wingers who got contracts e.g. Matt Proctor, Adam Whitelock, Declan O'Donnel, Naholo.

    Also don't get why the Blues signed Marty McKenzie when Kurt Baker was available.
     
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    I thought Lam was alright actually, but he's no Sherwin Stowers!!
     
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    Pretty sure Sherwins going to be leaving New Zealand, made him self unavailable for the Blues, dont quote me as such but I heard from one of the Steelers guys
     
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    I'd take them both over Lam to be honest. Matt Proctor and Ben Lam would be about on par. We both know what I think of Whitelock.
     
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    Haha he must have naked photos of Blackadder or something.
     
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    Agree with this. Imo he shouldve been given a contract.
     
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