SuperRugby: Sharks v Chiefs. 21/04/2012.

[Amobokoboko]

Don't be to hard mate, both teams played very sloppy due to the slippery ball and the Chiefs gave away too many turn overs and penalties just as last week. When Lambie is the fly half you don't do that. At the end the game could have gone both ways, but the way the Sharks hardly defended on our two tries made the difference.

 

[Draggs]

Don't be to hard mate, both teams played very sloppy due to the slippery ball and the Chiefs gave away too many turn overs and penalties just as last week. When Lambie is the fly half you don't do that. At the end the game could have gone both ways, but the way the Sharks hardly defended on our two tries made the difference.

Yes, but I don't like the look of the Sharks now.
He manages the players very poorly, we should be performing better than what we are.

Chiefs are a good side. Taking nothing away from them.

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

Both these teams deserved to lose tonight if that makes any sense.

 

[nickdnz]

I thought the referee had a shocker this match. So many calls were just wrong and penalised the team that was being infringed. Thought the Chiefs were exceptionally unlucky, as there were so many times where the Sharks were playing the ball, while being off their feet at the ruck. Fair play to them though, if the referee won't blow it up and actually penalises the other team, I'd keep on doing it for sure.

Nice try on the 80th minute. What a cheeky *******. 80th minute, one point game , 10'' of touch line and he goes for the try. Classic.

Agree with stormer2010, neither team looked exceptionally good on attack, spilling a lot of ball. Both teams had good defense, especially the Chiefs, but the number of errors by the Chiefs was shocking, even in the worst humidity.

 

[sonnench]

Disappointed as a Sharks fan, but the Chiefs looked pretty bad as well.

Really can't see past the Stormers winning the whole thing, with the Crusaders IMO being the best bet to meet them in the final.

I think the Sharks can count themselves unlucky, as Cruden's try could of easily been called up for obstruction.

 

[TRF Mr Fish]

I don't think there was anything wrong with Cruden's try - the player behind him was running a switch play, which there's nothing wrong with. There was only one Sharks player who may have been affected, but I don't think he had a case for a penalty.

 

[sonnench]

Hahaha @ the NZ media overracting on Bobby Skinstad's ''coconut'' comment, it was a coconut tackle. The end result served him right.

Is anyone else over Super rugby? I am, and just want the tests to come faster.

 

[TRF Mr Fish]

Yeah the whole coconut thing is just a waste of time... I'm enjoying the rugby this season, but that being said the Chiefs are doing pretty good

My thoughts on the match:

- BdP wasn't very good today - particularly with the lineouts. I would've put Burden on with about twenty to go.
- Sam Cane was very good for the Chiefs, putting in a couple of huge tackles.
- TK-B looked oddly unsure of himself today, don't know why. He made a couple of useful breaks but was otherwise very average. Pulu looked good when he came on though - though he might've put a foot on the line at the end, but didn't influence anything really, in the scheme of things.
- Lambie needs to out his foot down and attack the line more. His kicking is good, but not as good as Steyn's or Grant's. He needs to challenge the defence, he has the skill to do it.
- SBW spilled the ball five times. Hopefully he pulls himself together.
- The Masaga tackle was dumb, but not penalisable. The head clash was unlucky, but it wasn't malicious or, normally, dangerous.
- Scrums were fantastic in this match - I don't recall any resets? I wish referees did enforce a straight feed, but as long as they're consistent I suppose...

 

[sonnench]

Y
- The Masaga tackle was dumb, but not penalisable. The head clash was unlucky, but it wasn't malicious or, normally, dangerous.
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Completely disagree, I thought it was extremely dangerous and the result of the ''tackle'' proved that.

 

[TRF Mr Fish]

It was chest on chest, and the heads came forward. If Masaga had been right in front of him (i.e. wasn't running at full pace) and had used exactly the same technique then there wouldn't be any issues. The tackle itself was fine, the situation was the problem.

 

[William18]

Just how has the media overreacted? It was mentioned in the media, as it should have been. I haven't seen them overreact though. Would be curious as to see which articles or news reports had overreacted over the incident. People ere just seem to be calling it a dumb comment but no one whom I have heard has suggested that Skinstad be fired or anything. When I heard the comments, I thought they were funny. A commentator should know better than to say something like that but it's nothing to get worked up over.

As for the tackle, didn't see a lot in it. A marginal penalty at best.

 

[sonnench]

Just how has the media overreacted? It was mentioned in the media, as it should have been. I haven't seen them overreact though. Would be curious as to see which articles or news reports had overreacted over the incident. People ere just seem to be calling it a dumb comment but no one whom I have heard has suggested that Skinstad be fired or anything. When I heard the comments, I thought they were funny. A commentator should know better than to say something like that but it's nothing to get worked up over.

As for the tackle, didn't see a lot in it. A marginal penalty at best.

It's an overreaction because it was mentioned at all. Saying it was ''clumsy'' and more so than the two yellow card worthy offences from the Chiefs is an overreaction, as there was absolutely nothing wrong with the comment he made.

 

[TRF Mr Fish]

I look forward to the day a white guy smashed a black South African in a tackle and the commentator calls it an 'epic Apartheid tackle'.

It would actually make my day

 

[SomeOke]

What does coconut tackle mean in NZ because it doesn't make any sense in terms of racism from a South African point of few?

 

[TRF Mr Fish]

Well Masaga's an islander, and coconuts grow on the islands... So in that regard it's basically saying it's an islander tackle, and Skinstad (sp?) obviously considered it reckless. So he was saying islanders tackle recklessly.

Of course he's said he didn't actually know what it meant, though ignorance is never an excuse.

That being said, it doesn't bother me at all I find the whole thing hilarious, because it was obviously not malicious or anything, so the whole basis for his comment was a bit bleargh.

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

Did I miss something? Reading about race and coconuts here and not sure what to make about it LOL. Was it the head clash?

Anyway I think the Sharks need to do a lot of work. The handling was terrible and they had more chances than the Chiefs but couldn't make them count.

Also, BdP, JdP and Willem Alberts are good for generating front-foot-ball around the ruck fringes and any team would be glad to have these guys perform that role but too often they ended up in the middle of an attacking chance and the attack just lost all momentum the moment they touched the ball. They and the players passing to them should be able to read the situation and know who is responsible for what at what times and them handling the ball when there is an overlap out wide is not the right play.

 

[TRF Mr Fish]

Skinstad called Masaga's tackle a 'coconut tackle'. Yeah, really newsworthy

 

[TRF_heineken]

How Crap was Meyer Bosman when he came on??!! He alone helped the Sharks lose...

As for Taumalolo's stamp, isn't that a red card offence??

As for the whole coconut thing, once again the media has blown the whole thing out of proportion! It's becoming more and more evident that some nations' sense of humour gets lost by others... I thought it was a very good description of the tackle...

 

[nickdnz]

Just on the coconut tackle incident, I was amazed at how badly the commentators were in that regard. Not the coconut comment, I took that instantly as a head tackle, but just the outcry for a yellow card. Had Masaga's head not clashed with Mvovo's, it would have been a perfectly good hit. They were going on about no arms, but to be honest he was obviously wrapping the arms around (albeit at around chest height while running vertically), but the momentum of the hit drove the heads together before the arms wrapped around, certainly didn't head with the sholder or anything that would suggest he wasn't trying to wrap arms around. It just seemed like pretty bias commentating.

 

[TRF Mr Fish]

Taumalolo's stamp is an interesting one... Probably warranted a yellow card, but to be fair, what the hell was the Sharks player doing on the ground under a maul? You don't just happen to fall under or through a maul, you have to pull yourself down (i.e. he was probably trying to collapse the maul).