Which is one of the reasons i found it weird Germany legalised cannabis smoking / use. Smoking is still smoking plus the other issues caused by regular cannabis use.
The main benefit I see with cannabis use is for medical ie pain relief. Plus, there's no need to smoke it. The two times I had it was in came form. But the one I had in Amsterdam has put me off it for life. Far too strong and I was wired for days.
It certainly has more benefits than alcohol (which pretty much has zero benefits like smoking)
Depends who you are for alcohol. I recall the chief medical officer saying a small glass of red wine for women in their 50s is beneficial for their heart proven in studies.
I think that's really pushing it to be honest. When David Nutt did that study he ranked alcohol, along with Tobacco if I recall correctly, as one of the most damaging drugs in the world and that wasn't just physical health that considered societal damage too.
I think you make a fair point but in my opinion the fact of the matter is that alcohol is probably the most harmful drug in the world when you take into account harm to other people. How many people die from drink drivers, how many people abused by alcoholics? How many people with life changing injuries from drunken fights, how much damage to public and private property etc etc. then you have 2nd hand smoke. It doesn't compare in my opinion. Are there any studies into how many people die from 2nd hand smoke. I bet it's minimal to non existent.
You're right there's no real safe level of alcohol. Different countries have different recommendations on weekly limits. Here it's 14 units a week, and days off inbetween, whereas in Canada it's 2 standard drinks a week.
Now we're getting into a different discussion of benefits/disadvantages of other drugs. This is where we get into the if alcohol is so harmful why is that legal but not those other drugs.
Heroin is probably better for you and society than alcohol. lol.
where did you get that from? Have you not watched Trainspotting? And Paula Yates and her daughter both dying from overdosing. Nasty drug they got hooked on.Just that it's legal and prohibition has been shown to not work.
That is fair. I just think if you grow up in a smoking household and never smoke yourself you're unlikely to have any life changing health problems unless you're home schooled and are never allowed in a smoke free room or something and even then I just can't see it as a massive social problem. The obvious biggest problem with growing up in an environment like that is that you'll probably just turn into a smoker yourself leave yourself open to being more likely to get cancer.
Because at least heroin serves a medical function, it's one of the best pain killers we've got. I may be being a bit cute with my wording here but heroin is essentially opium.
Just that it's legal and prohibition has been shown to not work.
I am thankful that I am unlikely to be an alcoholic because of my condition but recognise there are a lot of peeps who can't control their addiction to it.
I know you're just joking but, for the record, this isn't a contradiction as people should be free to make their own choices about what to put in their body. The only 2 consistent sides in this are ban all drugs or legalise all. I side with the latter.
Yeh and we saw how that turned out in China in the 19th century. Now China are basically doing the same to the US but Fentanyl instead.
I was just highlighting a benefit not saying it was a positive overall. The point was saying it's more beneficial than alcohol. You're argument on smoking seems to be it has zero benefits but I put to you that alcohol is the more harmful drug overall when considering both physical and societal health.Yeh and we saw how that turned out in China in the 19th century. Now China are basically doing the same to the US but Fentanyl instead.
