[RWC2023 SF2] England vs South Africa (21/10/2023)

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

Who else do we pick for props? BV the big blunder really.

I'd have kept Cole/Marler on until they were gasses but I don't think we could have expected Steward and Sinckler to **** the bed the much.

We could on Sinckler because he's been doing this for a while. I really don't think he's 100% as he seems to constantly suffer from a back injury and doesn't look the same player.

 

[stus768]

Who else do we pick for props? BV the big blunder really.

I'd have kept Cole/Marler on until they were gasses but I don't think we could have expected Steward and Sinckler to **** the bed the much.

I'd have kept props on, was not a high energy game and had Stewart instead of sinckler. Sinckler has been my poor for a few years now.

 

[ncurd]

We'll never know. People wrote off England v NZ in the SF four years ago.

Not as much as we did for this one.

 

[Scotty]

Im happy, gutted but not unhappy, we had terrible warm up games and it looked bleak.

We executed a strong gameplan to beat argentina, we won the rest of the pool games and held on despite a scare from Samoa.

We showed more atracking promise vs Fiji and held on for the late fight back to get to a SF, the min that was required from our WC draw IMO.

We finished that game in a position where had Pollard missed the pen and we went on to win then we would have deserved it just as much as SA deserve it now.

Id actually say we were the better team and just small margains(and big SA front rowers) were the difference.

 

[BrokenWing]

Big tournaments always bring the big tw#s

I've tried not to until now, but it's getting draining.

 

[General Melchett]

Not as much as we did for this one.

It's a pointless discussion. Different coaches, different squad. EJ got England to a final.

 

[Derpus]

O'Queeffe's capacity to continually miss the most basic of things is truly remarkable. In case you are reading this mate - you cannot in fact call a mark outside the 22.

 

[Scotty]

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Wait now you dont even respect a 40m dropgoal? seriously just go watch 7s

 

[Bunyip]

What's the average age of the England starting front row?? They seem to have been around forever.

Pretty sure Dan Cole was born in the early 16th century

 

[Wichita]

I thought my reputation is worth less than 1 euro...

I am so sorry for you, mine is worth billions of euros, so if Raynal refs the final, I'll be one of the richest man on the surface of the earth.
Not even a remote chance, i am afraid...

 

[BrokenWing]

Seen people giving out about the final scrum but considering how the previous ones went I'm willing to believe SA won it more than we suddenly turned the tides

I have literally no idea who's doing what, but I'm willing to believe neither do the referees and it's largely refereed on the balance of probability.

 

[Gray_Mouser]

O'Queeffe's capacity to continually miss the most basic of things is truly remarkable. In case you are reading this mate - you cannot in fact call a mark outside the 22.

I've been wondering about that. Does anyone else think he was outside too?

 

[Derpus]

I am so sorry for you, mine is worth billions of euros, so if Raynal refs the final, I'll be one of the richest man on the surface of the earth.
Not even a remote chance, i am afraid...

If Raynal refs the final he will be by the worst ref to ever ref a final.

 

[Derpus]

I've been wondering about that. Does anyone else think he was outside too?

You also can't call a mark after taking a step forward and realising you are about to be cleaned up. But lets keep things simple for O'Keeffe eh. Baby steps.

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

Watched that as live about half an hour behind.

Well done the Boks. Incredibly brave from England, but really coulda, shoulda.

Whether the scrum penalties were right or not, you still need props with the strength and smarts. Our replacements didn't. This needs fixing. Cole, Marler and Martin all justified their selections.

They were bad conditions but the one that really got away was the not straight attacking line out about 5 minutes into the second half. Go over from that and I think that would have been game over.

Boks bench won that for them. They've got some interesting decisions for the final.

 

[ncurd]

I've been wondering about that. Does anyone else think he was outside too?

I don't think, I know.

 

[Derpus]

Seemed pretty clear that England's loosehead (Genge?) was boring in on the last scrum, to me. He was getting touched up.

 

[General Melchett]

Wayne Barnes to ref the final. Phew. You're welcome World Rugby.

 

[Zac_ETNZ]

O'Queeffe's capacity to continually miss the most basic of things is truly remarkable. In case you are reading this mate - you cannot in fact call a mark outside the 22.

So where was the TMO if that were the case? They seem to intrude into everything else...

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

I'll have a read through this when sober tomorrow, but in summary:

First time in years I have been proud of this team. Pub packed and was screaming swing low.

Faz showed he still has the #IceMan within.

O'Keefe was ****.

Sinkler can't scrummage v the Boks.