[RWC2023] England vs Chile (23/09/2023)

[Mrs. Peter Quinn]

Commentator: "now, how ambitious will England be from this scrum?"

Daly: Hoofs it

 

[BrokenWing]

I hope not

Because you don't think it's a good idea, or there are certain players you don't want back?

 

[Rinkadink]

Don't think I'm going to bother with second half, not learning anything with this.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

"We will hear the thoughts of Woodward and Dallaglio"

Yeah I've definitely died and gone to hell

 

[Jimbo]

I will go on record as saying Smith isn't and shouldn't be a 15, this is not a top 10 nation so I will reserve judgement but he looks better there than id expected although he needs to be seen there under more pressure with high balls etc.

 

[IT157]

Don't think I'm going to bother with second half, not learning anything with this.

Confirming that no one hates the English more than English fans. Even ALRums has been more positive than most English fans

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Lots of negativity on this forum…decent first half from England

They are the lowest ranked side in the WC, what we are doing now is the least we should expect.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Because you don't think it's a good idea, or there are certain players you don't want back?

The former, I'm very firmly in the camp that players should be in England to play for England
I do think it'll be better for Arundell's development that he just has a season solely focusing on his rugby at Racing, though, with no jetting back and forth just to hold tackle bags for England
Marchant is a loss, but there's a decent amount of young centres knocking about we could look at these days
Ribbans isn't a loss (decent but replaceable, he's 4th choice so there's plenty in contention for that role)
Can't think of anyone else?

 

[BPM]

A team with that many changes is always going to look a bit disjointed, but flip me, we were rank bad in the first 20. Much better after that and a couple of players having decent games (Dan and Smith). It is the minimum expectation vs. Chile mind you.

As an aside - Dan was a good fantasy pick.

 

[Jimbo]

The former, I'm very firmly in the camp that players should be in England to play for England
I do think it'll be better for Arundell's development that he just has a season solely focusing on his rugby at Racing, though, with no jetting back and forth just to hold tackle bags for England
Marchant is a loss, but there's a decent amount of young centres knocking about we could look at these days
Ribbans isn't a loss (decent but replaceable)
Can't think of anyone else?

J Willis (appreciate he had already signed) but still relevant to some extent.

 

[higgik]

Think the Sarries playbook has been raided by England.
Maybe have Lawes back for Willis, moving Ludlam to 7.
I know they weak, but I am liking the running lines

 

[Mrs. Peter Quinn]

"We will hear the thoughts of Woodward and Dallaglio"

Yeah I've definitely died and gone to hell

Down your drink if Woodward says "it's halftime, pretend it's 0-0, go out there and win the 2nd half"

 

[TRF_Olyy]

J Willis (appreciate he had already signed) but still relevant to some extent.

Ah yeah forgot about that
He's very very good but openside is one of our strongest positions of depth these days

 

[whocaresaboutthetruth]

It's gotten better since the first try, but it was really awful for the first 20 mins.

I wouldn't say really awful..it's sometimes the case in matches like these when teams are expected to win that it takes a bit of time to establish dominance

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

I underestimated how much Chile would tire in the physical challenge. 0 points conceded in the first 19mins, 31 conceded in the next 21. Pure fatigue.

 

[Saintjay]

I wouldn't say really awful..it's sometimes the case in matches like these when teams are expected to win that it takes a bit of time to establish dominance

I don't know i can't see any of the top four being held by Chile in the first 20.

 

[AlRums]

Confirming that no one hates the English more than English fans. Even ALRums has been more positive than most English fans

Have I? going to have to wake up

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Lot of empty seats in that middle tier - slow queues at the bar? I thought every game was a sell out

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Out of everything id say Dan is coming out with credit, hitting his lineouts, scrum going well. But has a try, try assist, a turnover and generally looked a handful ball in hand.

Jinxed

 

[Ferrari333SP]

If England was playing their first 15, like France, Ireland, and NZ did against the other minnows so far, they also would have scored much sooner this game