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The Timisoara players that went to CSM are either youngsters or fringe squad members. I assume they were loaned there in order to get some game time. But CSM is a team that always tries to attack, even with their weak squad they were able to beat Steaua this spring and get a close result against Timisoara. They can't fight for the ***le but might cause some upsets.

Second result of the day: Steaua - U Cluj 45-6
 
It was like watching two different games today. First half was incredibly messy (presumably because it was very hot or there hadn't been a pre-season?), second half was quite a bit more flowing, Dinamo looking decent in attack and a well deserved victory. I thought from looking at CSM on Youtube from last year they played at your nice stadium with the giant white church in the background (which I think you use for some internationals). This ground wasn't so nice unfortunately. Also it looked to me like you got bigger crowds for the cup matches in the spring than you did this weekend?

Still, if the big three are as good as or better than Dinamo then there should be some entertaining contests, I'll be keeping a lookout. Hopefully some teams will have more Romanian backs (Steaua & Timisoara?). I did enjoy seeing what must be the largest afro hairdo in world rugby, Dinamo's No. 8!
 
Matches are usually poor in the first rounds because the clubs don't have a real preseason and their squads change a lot every season. Today the heat was also to blame (37 degrees). The standard will get much better after a few weeks.

The match was a mess. I actually thought Dinamo were very poor, they won mainly because CSM got 1 red card and 2 yellows. Some of CSM's players put in a big effort today though, in particular their captain Adrian Ion and the South African fly half who was very accurate with the boot.

This is CSM's stadium but they do sometimes use the Arcul de Triumf (the one with the church). Crowds are generally a bit larger but it was just too hot today and it's the holiday season so many people are not in town.

The big three are a lot better than Dinamo. If you can watch Timisoara vs Baia Mare on Friday, these are probably the ***le contenders.
 
Bruce, that was Olimpia stadium and is CSM home right now. It's based on an association between CSM and old Olimpia club, it's a joint venture.

I attended the match and the heat from first half was horrific, personally I couldn't stay in an area without shade. I preferred to avoid staying on a seat just to get more shade. Second half was a bit better but the players constantly complained about temperature, some frontrows were exhausted after 20 minutes.

Match was quite bad from both teams but Dinamo hardly played pre-season games and some of CSM players just signed with the team so not too much time to assemble the squad.

Same as dragos, I think Adrian Ion had a very good match and I think he should have a chance with Oaks. I also liked Balaban from Dinamo, good try. Both teams should play better in few rounds.
 
I missed the red card! I know CSMs crazy number 3 was sin binned twice in the first half! Was that him being sent off the second time for tackling without using the arms? That changes things completely and I've no idea who was the better team then. It can be hard to follow the match if there is not English commentary and you only speak one language like me!
 
Today the heat was also to blame (37 degrees).

Actually it was 37 in shade, out of shade 40 even at 17:00 :lol: humidity around 80, I can understand why frontrows were exhausted in 20th minute.

I forgot to mention the red card, also at some point CSM was down to 13 players, it was another card in second half.
 
He got the first yellow card for protests and the second for a no-arms tackle (not noticed by the referee but the video ref alerted him). With one man down for 50 minutes in such a heat, I think CSM did quite well to hang on almost until the end of the match. When they were playing in 13, there could have been a third yellow card after a punching incident. I heard through the ref mic the linesman advising the referee to award just a penalty "or we'll break them completely" :)

As for the better team, it was Dinamo of course. Discipline is a big part of the game.

The match on Friday between Timisoara and Baia Mare will give us an early look at the favourites but it's much too early to judge.

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He got the first yellow card for protests and the second for a no-arms tackle (not noticed by the referee but the video ref alerted him). With one man down for 50 minutes in such a heat, I think CSM did quite well to hang on almost until the end of the match. When they were playing in 13, there could have been a third yellow card after a punching incident. I heard through the ref mic the linesman advising the referee to award just a penalty "or we'll break them completely" :)

From what I've seen (and I was exactly near the incident), it was indeed a hit directed to the arm of the opponent who was holding CSM player in a ruck...didn't deserve a yellow at all, player never meant to actually punch his opponent but rather free him from a ruck.
 
Well, the incident was not captured by the cameras and the ref didn't see it either. But the linesman said it was a punch to the backhead and the player (Ispir) did not protest at all, so I guess there was some foul play.

In other news, the FRR has introduced GPS player tracking and statistics for all the Superliga teams, another step towards a more professional league. The stats were available in real time to the Dolce Sport announcer.
 
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The three Tongans that went from Timisoara to CSM are done deals, they belong to CSM now. Only Lemeki Nabalei is on loan from Timisoara. This Sioeli Nau player is intriguing, both Timisoara and Baia Mare got rid of him very fast and he didn't play for CSM in the first match either. I don't think an international Tongan centre with 18 caps could be so weak.

In other news, the rugby stadium in Iasi was renovated a bit and 3000 seats have been installed. The city hall has changed the seats on the football stadium with new ones, while the old seats went to the rugby stadium. The stands there used to be in an awful state but Iasi now has a better stadium than Timisoara or CSM.
 
Teams for second round are up:
http://www.super-liga.ro/

CSM Baia Mare - Timisoara Saracens
Baia Mare still pushing young guns in first XV, even against their main rival, Timisoara. Chirica is retained in the starting XV (at 19 he was the man of the match last round), Cojocaru is there ahead of Natriashvili (not even on bench, odd) and Bardasu. Oprea is at 10 but I don't get it why, I'd think of him more of a center or a fullback. On bench Iurea (great future ahead), Bucur, Tigla.

Timisoara is with usual squad and two young back (one the bench, one is starting) but both were quite good in Cup. Some of these young players I mentioned I am sure we will see them soon being called to Oaks.

Politehnica Iasi - CSM Olimpia Bucuresti

Theoretically, the hosts look favorites but some of their players signed late and CSM was a tough nut to crack by Dinamo although played almost the entire game in first round in 14 and even scored when it was down to 13 players.

From Iasi, not many surprises in their lineup; I like that young players like Butnariu and Plai who played in 2nd division last season seem to be comfortable in Super Liga; From CSM, Cobden is back on the wing, Arvinte (signed from a Castres academy) at 8 and Neacsu/Sobota in second row, both quite mobile players and I think they will be decisive for the visitors.

CS Dinamo Bucuresti - CSA Steaua Bucuresti
team not loaded yet but this is a classic, I expect some scandal too :p
 
Thanks! Team lineups with photos and player details will make it easier to watch a match when I can't understand the commentary, and easier to look out for Romanian players.

CS Dinamo Bucuresti - CSA Steaua Bucuresti
team not loaded yet but this is a classic, I expect some scandal too :p

Is there bad blood / rivalry between these two? More so than with CSM / Olimpia?

A couple more unrelated questions. How much does the Romanian RFU look out for "project players"? As in, attract foreigners, let them play in their league for three years then give them a Romanian shirt? On the wikipedia page for your national side I saw at least four names that didn't sound Romanian, but that seems quite low compared to what the Tier 1 nations do. I personally dislike that this is allowed, but for Tier 2 and 3 I think it is at least something that might help them develop for positions where they don't have a decent home grown option (whereas at Tier 1 I find it embarassing - with Scotland and Wales at least employing full time staff to do this). The fact Romania has a professional league might make that more achievable than for some of their Tier 2 rivals.

Also if a team closes or goes bankrupt, like Farul Constanta, are they replaced by a team from the same town/city in the lower league? It's a decent sized city and it'd be a shame if they didn't have a team at in the top two leagues to cheer on. In the UK if a sports club dies financially, it usually is just reborn with a slightly different name in the bottom division.
 
Is there bad blood / rivalry between these two? More so than with CSM / Olimpia?

One can write a Ph.D regarding rivalry between these two clubs. Steaua is Army's club, founded in 50s, Dinamo is Interior Ministry (Home Office) sports club and their rivalry stretches to all disciplines where they compete (football, rugby, handball) for decades.

I do expect some members of football galleries to show up at this game but they're lot behaved than at football, still cursing and some smoke may be expected although not the fights from football. Steaua - Dinamo is THE RIVALRY , THE DERBY in Romanian sport.

A couple more unrelated questions. How much does the Romanian RFU look out for "project players"? As in, attract foreigners, let them play in their league for three years then give them a Romanian shirt? On the wikipedia page for your national side I saw at least four names that didn't sound Romanian, but that seems quite low compared to what the Tier 1 nations do. I personally dislike that this is allowed, but for Tier 2 and 3 I think it is at least something that might help them develop for positions where they don't have a decent home grown option (whereas at Tier 1 I find it embarassing - with Scotland and Wales at least employing full time staff to do this). The fact Romania has a professional league might make that more achievable than for some of their Tier 2 rivals.

First player who gained eligibility for Romania was Otar Turashvili who played his entire professional career here until last year when he signed with Colomiers. Than when SL started clubs transferred foreigners (mainly SH players) and obviously some become eligible for Romania. Since T2 sides always have a depth issue it was normal to select these players. Added to that, it was a gap in development of juniors for some years (which will be closed) who made interesting these players. But there isn't any program coordinated by FRR in this regard, it's just what can be picked from what clubs' transfer. Currently played for Oaks Otar Turashvili, Johan Van Heerden (SA), Randall Morisson (SA), Jody Rose (SA), Jack Umaga (NZ), Steven Sheenan (NZ) and probably this year Tangimana Fonovai from Timisoara will be available too for Oaks.

However, to be noted that clubs started to transfer their project players meaning younger players who after 3 years will be considered Romanians so they won't count as foreigners (from next season only 6 will be allowed in the line-ups).

So there isn't any policy to push for project players but to pick what players qualify for this and could be useful for Oaks. I think the presence of these foreigners, especially SH players helped Romanian rugby. Juniors see different type of play, some of them are thinking to move here or are married here and already coaching at junior level so it's a human resource that cannot be ignored. In the 80s the isolation of Romanian rugby hurt the play (too tight play, built around big packs) and this openness to foreigner input can only do good. Next step would be to employ foreign coaches but money are limited. Clubs already become more selective in signing foreign players.

One peculiarity is that now SL offers salaries comparable with Federale 1/ Elite which makes many good Romanian players to come back and play here. Considering that the prices are lower, some can find interesting to even refuse Pro D2 moves. Time will show if this is beneficial or not but this year we've seen some come backs from Eccelenza or France.


Also if a team closes or goes bankrupt, like Farul Constanta, are they replaced by a team from the same town/city in the lower league? It's a decent sized city and it'd be a shame if they didn't have a team at in the top two leagues to cheer on. In the UK if a sports club dies financially, it usually is just reborn with a slightly different name in the bottom division.

Any legal person who'll go bankrupt will be radiated as a legal person at the end of the procedure so no, Farul is dead and buried. There are no law provisions regarding the trophy box of the club so probably this will go to Local council (club's owner) so will be possible to be transfered to a newly founded club.

I think Constanta have the highest density of junior clubs so yes, would be a pity to not have a team in top league. Nearby town Navodari have a team in second division and they signed some of Constanta's players; they have in mind a promotion in SL but it's a small town, difficult to find resources; however, the stadium (Legmas) is much better than Timisoara's own stadium

Also from this season, a small junior club, Tomitanii (name come from old Greek antiquity name of the city, Tomis) which was mostly privately funded until this season will be allowed to play in 3rd Division with its U20 team; FRR changed regulations to allowed the players to compete in two competitions, U20 championship and Divizia A (3rd Division); they receive financing from local city hall and county council this time based on the laws which allow this type of financing and not as it was previously done with Farul. Btw, the guy who was in charge with these funding was convicted to 15 years of prison (it can be appealed).
 
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Hah! Thanks for answers. I did see video clips of Dinamo fans last season and they did look like football fans. I only caught the last half hour of Timisoara game. Looked like same issue as last week, really hot combined with them having their first game of the season. Baia Mare must be kicking themselves as that was a golden chance. Good to see a young Romanian back get a try for Timisoara and also a decent crowd despite the kick off time on a week day.
 
Looked fun at the derby, and you were right about the flares! A couple of good moves for the disallowed tries.

Have to say though the most entertaining team look like being Iasi (although I've not seen Cluj yet). Their 10 Plai shows some promise (I see he was man of the match and is only 22?) and one of their Tongans, Moa, in the back line is a bit of a live wire. They look like a great addition to the league and I could see them finishing fourth or even third. The score actually flattered Olimpia from what I watched.

Generally pleasantly surprised by what I've seen from the league so far. There is more back play, offloads and even cross kicks than I was expecting and hopefully this all makes it more entertaining for casual TV viewers and kids. Scrum resets and set pieces are terribly slow though, although I think there are delays because the weather is so hot and they don't want players dropping dead! I'll be keeping an eye on the league to get my rugby fix until the start of Pro 12.
 
I think you watched more Romanian rugby than me last week-end. Since is summer there is a need to spend time outdoor so I only watched Timisoara - Baia Mare because I was at work :D

Plai was a surprise in the Cup earlier this season and I am glad he is keeping a high standard. He's student at Polytechnic Uni from Iasi and also a rugby player for Uni's club. I really hope he will develop well and having George Sava (ex Enisey backs coach) as a coach will only help. He is a good runner with ball in hand and have a good eye for finding space and a decent boot. His debut for Oaks at Nations Cup wasn't the best but last year he played in 2nd Division so I'd have patience with him.

Heat is a huge issue but I think long term will prove beneficial because Howells spoke about the heat and humidity we will face in Japan so it will be good if the players will get used with it.
 
Good point on the heat. Sadly we don't have this thing you call summer in Scotland so I was free to overdose on rugby and olympics at the same time rather than face 50mph winds! Sava might turn into a great coach given how Enisei were playing in the Challenge Cup and how attractive the rugby of Iasi has been.

Also 18 year old Romanian starting at 10 for Steaua? Seemed they were protecting him a bit by giving Vlaicu penalty and restart kicking. But they must think the kid has talent to make him start at such an age. Unless they have a first choice 10 who is injured?
 
Vlaicu grew up as a fullback, old style big driving fullback. Only in later years he refined his game and made some good matches at 10 or 12 as a playmaker but he's still too slow for this imo. He have an awesome boot but and can occasionally make good games in both positions but he's not a natural 10.

Boldor is a young talent who played for Steaua juniors with a short stint to Tomitanii excellent junior generation who played only running rugby, he moved there to win the championship only and played both 10 and 15. He's more a running type of fly-half rather than a kicking one. I agree he's kind of young but looking on Steaua's squad from Super Liga website he and Vlaicu are the only ones who can fill that position. Anyway he is better on the field than in the Cup when he was visible uncomfortable with some hard hits which is not the case now. If he won't injure himself, he have a bright future ahead.

Dumbrava was one of Steaua's fly-halves but I don't see him in the squad, I think he retired.
Lazar Filip was another one but also I don't see him in Steaua's squad for SL , maybe dragos knows more. I kind of remembe (if I am not mistaken) that he moved to Dinamo but I can't find him in Dinamo's squad :huh:

LE (due to phone call ;) ):

Good point on the heat. Sadly we don't have this thing you call summer in Scotland so I was free to overdose on rugby and olympics at the same time rather than face 50mph winds! Sava might turn into a great coach given how Enisei were playing in the Challenge Cup and how attractive the rugby of Iasi has been.

When it is 30 Celsius in the night you kind of want those cold winds, I am kind of fed up with this heat, especially when I have to walk in a suit; it's good if you're in vacation, otherwise is a burden.

Sava move to Iasi was surprising. He come back from Russia after Kiwi main coach of Enisey left the squad. I think he coached there 4-5 years. He first come to Steaua which played a very open game last season than surprisingly he left Steaua where he was replaced by ex-lock forward Cristi Petre: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristian_Petre

Following two-three weeks from the announcement that Poli will join SL with the support of local authorities and companies, Sava signed with Iasi at FRR's recommendation. I think he's an awesome coach that is reaching maturity and in future years he may emerge as a candidate for Oaks bench.
 
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I enjoy these breakfast UK weekend kick off times in Romania and SH Super Rugby - a nice way to ease into a weekend. Very disappointed in Poli Iasi this morning. They got a lot of help from the referee (red card, 2x yellow and a disallowed try for Steaua - none of which I really agreed with) but showed very little attacking threat at all. Plai missed three penalty kicks into touch, so is showing some inconsistency. All very confusing after their display against Olimpia last week.

Steaua looked extremely comfortable, were dominant in the scrum and broke the gain line at will with what looked like an almost all Romanian team (glad I picked them to support!). Young Tudor Boldor got a chance to show us what he can do with his boot with Vlaicu being sin-binned. He kicked a peach of a drop-goal and looked composed with ball in hand. Surprising results elsewhere with the bottom two clubs Cluj & Olimpia both winning. I love seeing teams who put out a weakened first XV underestimate their opponents get caught out, like Timisoara here I believe. I don't know why they would rest starting players given that the league has bye weeks and the Challenge Cup isn't until November.
 
Just come back from vacation, what a result by CSM! Glad that SL bring such surprises. Timisoara - Steaua match from today should be much more interesting given last round results. On another news, Yannick Vignette is the new Director of Romanian Junior National teams: http://www.larepubliquedespyrenees....-nouveau-defi-de-yannick-vignette,2026436.php https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yannick_Vignette I don't know much about him but he make it with Pau in a challenge Cup final. This is very good news as it was clear from some time that junior squads needed moore coordination and a head coach as opposed to the previous system where for every other generation it was appointed a differet coach.
 

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