More whining/whingingfrom the French - Lievremont

[admartian]

"It's maybe the only match in four years I haven't watched again," he said.
"It could open up wounds. There's a feeling of bitterness. We were so close to something huge, one of the biggest exploits in French sporting history."

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10767394

Wow.... I mean, if a kiwi had said that, it'd be called sour grapes, but when it's from a NH side, it's considered fine. (Much like the rest of the NH when NZ won).

I would love to hear what this idiot thinks about 2007....

 

[nickdnz]

Meh, best to let sleeping dogs lie. I saw the interview, and it does seem the the Herald have once again taken a very selective portion of what he has said. He did seem to have sour grapes, but he whinged about Harinordoquy too (rightly so, mind you). Some things he was stupid for bring up such as the eye gouge and the "McCaw knee" which only makes him looks stupid. That being said, maybe there should have been more tribute to France at the end of the match. Obviously Henry and McCaw were just so relieved to have won the World Cup after years of failure that perhaps there wasn't the edicate of giving opposition as much praise. However looking back at every world cup from 2007-1987, there have yet to have been any real tribute to the losing team. It's always been about the winner and not the loser.

Be careful not to lump in an entire half of the world in generalizations. We don't endear ourselves doing that. Rest assured we have as many sour grapes in this side of the hemisphere with our teams. The Graham Henry after losing to France was all class, not criticizing Barnes at all (which I think is pathetic of Lievremont) and taking responsibility for his team, but some New Zealand fans behaved very poorly after 2007 (not helped by antagonisms from overseas).

 

[elgringoborracho]

nz media spreading their sh*t again

 

[Saintjay]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10767394

Wow.... I mean, if a kiwi had said that, it'd be called sour grapes, but when it's from a NH side, it's considered fine. (Much like the rest of the NH when NZ won).

I would love to hear what this idiot thinks about 2007....

Wow a nice sweeping general statement for first thing in the morning, it looks like you have based your whole opinion on one news paper article. Which you then decide that people from the at least England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, I could go on. All feel the same as France and whinge that you won the WC, erm nope that's not right. You post a comment hoping to get a reaction with an article where you proceed to tar everyone in the NH with the same brush.

The majority of the press, pundits and fans in the U.K tend to have the opinion that yes maybe France were unlucky, prehaps they should have won.

To a man most agreed that the best team overall one and that the AB's were by far the best team in the WC. That it would seem wrong that a team that already lost two games could win it. It was great to see Richie McCaw one of the greats of world rugby lift the cup and i for one was pretty chuffed for him.

The two games that caused the largest reaction in fans was the South Africa - Australia match and Wales and France, and then prehaps the Samoa,South Africa games.
So I think when it came to bad reactions about the game sour grapes, the only time fans really got on there high horses in the NH, was a game against another NH team.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

He doesn't want to watch his team lose out on the WC.....so?
I've never watched the 2007 final again, because I take no pleasure in seeing England lose a WC final.
He's no longer the French coach, so it's not like he needs to go through the analysis with the team, so he doesn't need to if he doesn't want to.

 

[TNT88]

The stuff he is saying isn't anything new, and it isn't even that bad. Just desperate journalism once again...

 

[admartian]

:lol:

And the French can talk about being 'cheated' yet deny the 2007 incidents...riiight....

And yes, NH "JOURNALISTS" (note NOT fans) lambasted the ABs/NZ pretty much after the final whistle; so yes, I think I am quite entitled to that. You'd think the world media would be in a gracious congratulatory mode, but all there was bitter people.

They're entitled to it (albeit shoddy journalism) but it's annoying.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

And yes, NH "JOURNALISTS" (note NOT fans) lambasted the ABs/NZ pretty much after the final whistle

....no they didn't?

Maybe the ex-pat ones that write for SH papers did, but up here it was a right All Black love-fest, always has been, they can't get enough of NZ

 

[oldscumbagonian]

....no they didn't?

Maybe the ex-pat ones that write for SH papers did, but up here it was a right All Black love-fest, always has been, they can't get enough of NZ

Absolutely; the only serious "All Blacks" criticism from the NH press was reserved for England's performance against Argentina when, of course, they played in black.

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

OP, most people have moved on and you shouldn't be too worried about the last couple of inevitable remarks that will come up from time to time especially from the French who can rightly feel a bit hard done by. It's happened before (to NZ) and it's happened again (this RWC mostly to Fra and SA and to some extent Samoa) and some people will take longer to accept it than others. No reason to have a go at (ALL!!) people in the NH.

 

[Saintjay]

:lol:

And the French can talk about being 'cheated' yet deny the 2007 incidents...riiight....

And yes, NH "JOURNALISTS" (note NOT fans) lambasted the ABs/NZ pretty much after the final whistle; so yes, I think I am quite entitled to that. You'd think the world media would be in a gracious congratulatory mode, but all there was bitter people.

They're entitled to it (albeit shoddy journalism) but it's annoying.

Nope with Olly on this one, most of are press seem to love the All Blacks. So again how you can make sweeping general staements that are wrong I don't know.

Not sure how may UK papers you read , but it would seem none were all bitter people.

Some quotes from press here after the final. The below press comments alone prove that not all NH press *****ed about the AB's

But the All Blacks were the best team over the tournament, winning all their seven games.

New Zealand for 2015 because the monkey is off their backs and they do the basics better than any one.

And yet when the heat was fiercest and the French were throwing the ball around like a frisbee, the All Blacks tackled like demons. Some 111 of them against France's 87.

This morning, though, the whole country was getting ready to raise a glass once more to a team they have rightly dubbed The Unshakeables.

 

[admartian]

OP, most people have moved on and you shouldn't be too worried about the last couple of inevitable remarks that will come up from time to time especially from the French who can rightly feel a bit hard done by. It's happened before (to NZ) and it's happened again (this RWC mostly to Fra and SA and to some extent Samoa) and some people will take longer to accept it than others. No reason to have a go at (ALL!!) people in the NH.

Fair enough.
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stupid thread

Himy name is stupid.

What does that make you posting in this thread? :lol:

 

[smartcooky]

nz media spreading their sh*t again

Oh don't be a dick all your life will you?

The original interview was published in LE MONDE, and unless I'm mistaken, that is a FRENCH newspaper

Perhaps it is the French media who is "spreading their sh*t".

I've never watched the 2007 final again, because I take no pleasure in seeing England lose a WC final.

I haven't either. but for a different reason. Who wants to spend 80 minutes watching two teams kick the ball aimlessly back and forth every 49 seconds.

 

[Teh Mite]

I haven't either. but for a different reason. Who wants to spend 80 minutes watching two teams kick the ball aimlessly back and forth every 49 seconds.

Must be the reason tv rating for Super Rugby are annually declining.

 

[smartcooky]

Must be the reason tv ratings for the Aviva Premiership are annually declining.

Fixed that for you!

 

[Teh Mite]

Wow, that is witty and hilarious (in ways you can only imagine) all in one fell swoop. Bravo.

 

[paulnixon]

As i heard the headlines For a man strongly agreed that the best team in general and that of AB were by far the best team in the WC. That seems wrong that a team has lost two games could win. It was great to see Richie MC caw one of the great Rugby World Cup and raise my part was very happy for him.