Massively Overrated XV

[Jockstap]

sorry
9. Fairhurst
10. Fairhurst
15. Fairhurst

Explosive, I'm putting you on my list of enemies.

 

[D.C.]

No Gavin Henson in there?

 

[cyRil]

Suck my balls.

 

[D.C.]

did it on purpose

 

[alex]

Suck my balls.

thought that was Gavin Henson's job?

 

[Haysie]

Cyril -

Present them.

 

[smartcooky]

OK, I'm game. Here's my "Massively Overrated XV"

NOTE: Rest of the World numbering, not South African numbering.

1. Andy Sheridan (ENG)
2. John Smit (SAF)
3. Al Baxter (AUS)
4. Sebastien Chabal (FRA)
5. Steve Borthwick (C)(ENG)
6. Adam Thomson (NZL)
7. Schalk Burger (SAF)
8. Pierre Spies (SAF)
9. Dimitri Yachvili (FRA)
10. Danny Cipriani (ENG)
11. Hosea Gear (NZL)
12. Gavin Henson (WAL)
13. Mike Tindall (ENG)
14. Tommy Bowe (IRE)
15. Delon Armitage (ENG)

 

[ranger]

OK, I'm game. Here's my "Massively Overrated XV"

NOTE: Rest of the World numbering, not South African numbering.

1. Andy Sheridan (ENG)
2. John Smit (SAF)
3. Al Baxter (AUS)
4. Sebastien Chabal (FRA)
5. Steve Borthwick (C)(ENG)
6. Adam Thomson (NZL)
7. Schalk Burger (SAF)
8. Pierre Spies (SAF)
9. Dimitri Yachvili (FRA)
10. Danny Cipriani (ENG)
11. Hosea Gear (NZL)
12. Gavin Henson (WAL)
13. Mike Tindall (ENG)
14. Tommy Bowe (IRE)
15. Delon Armitage (ENG)

Your NZ selections are a tad puzzling.. not sure how you can be overrated when you aren't even in the national side

 

[smartcooky]

Your NZ selections are a tad puzzling.. not sure how you can be overrated when you aren't even in the national side

You've answered your own query! Note the word in bold

 

[nickdnz]

Hosea Gear is god. I could understand if you thought of him more as a massiah though.

 

[lucky number 7]

Tommy bowe over rated? thats a trange oe over the last 2 years or so he has been the best winger going but then again there is a hero worship for him so maybe a tad bit overrated

 

[ranger]

You've answered your own query! Note the word in bold

I dont follow..

 

[smartcooky]

I dont follow..

Sheesh!

What does "overrated" mean? It means that people rate them as better that they really are

Both Adam Thomson and Hosea Gear have had their chances at All Black honors and haven't cut the mustard.

IMO, they are overrated. Gear in particular is something of a flat track bully. He's OK capitalising on the work forwards going forward, but his defence ain't that crash hot

PS: I wasn't aware that the OP required the overrated players for this XV to be current internationals.

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

Those who listed Matfield, Burger and Fourie shall suffer from indigestion after having to eat their filthy 'words' after the RWC is done and dusted.

As for my list:
Most overrated test players:

Andrew Sheridan / Tendai Mtawarira
John Smit
BJ Botha / Ben Alexander
James Horwill
Paul O'Conell
Rocky Elsom
Ryan Jones
Pierre Spies / Andy Powell / Richard Brown
Jimmy Cowan / Piri Weepu / Ricky Januarie although only Pdiv rates him
Ruan Pienaar / Quade Cooper
Bryan Habana / Shane Williams
Jean de Villiers / Wynand Olivier
Mathew Bastareuad
JP Pietersen
James O'Connor (or if he were rated at all, Zane Kirschner)
+ the English squad

and just to balance things out, some guys who I think don't always get the recognition they deserve or who can't be raed enough:

Guthro Steenkamp
Kevan Mealamu
Nicolas Mas
Danie Rossouw
Nathan Sharpe
Heinrich Brussouw
Juan Smith
Imanol Harinordoquy
Fourie du Preez
James Hook
Cedric Heymans
Jannick Jauzion
Conrad Smith
Cory Jane
Adam Ashley Cooper

 

[Charles]

and just to balance things out, some guys who I think don't always get the recognition they deserve or who can't be raed enough:

Guthro Steenkamp
Kevan Mealamu
Nicolas Mas
Danie Rossouw
Nathan Sharpe
Heinrich Brussouw
Juan Smith
Imanol Harinordoquy
Fourie du Preez
James Hook
Cedric Heymans
Jannick Jauzion
Conrad Smith
Cory Jane
Adam Ashley Cooper

Yes. Especially Nicolas Mas. One of the Top 3 tighthead in the world, and certainly the best of the Top14. French players are often underrated because France is kinda out of the loop of the rugby media, which is mainly Anglosphere-centered.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

That's two people who have said "The England squad" now,
Who rates England? I don't think i've seen a good word said about them in years (bar a few select players/matches)

 

[Teh Mite]

That's two people who have said "The England squad" now,
Who rates England? I don't think i've seen a good word said about them in years (bar a few select players/matches)

"Cool kids" from the Southern Hemisphere (and Wales/Ireland) will always do a bit of England bashing purely because it's "the cool thing to do".

 

[Feicarsinn]

Bullitt is the biggest England basher here. He still has his nationality set as Kiwi, so he doesn't have to support his own country. Tut tut.

 

[Teh Mite]

Get it right; I'm an educated critic.

Plus I'm all for equal opportunities: In my opinion, everyone in every team is crap.

 

[Feicarsinn]

:lol: Quite so, old bean.