Irish victory consequences.

[i tickle ur tum]

^They only really beat the AB forwards for the first half and it was a really understrength ab's back row with thompson and reads injury early on and kaino at home and the ab's general disintrest in the game by the time henry gave them the wake up call the game was won.
Kaino would be a huge loss for us if he went down him and kahui are our form players atm.

I honestly think and hope that the AB tight five has been holding back this year in the scrums so as not to give the game away if they were to face Aussie. I think they've known for some time they could destroy the aussie pack up front like the irish did. I dont know if will be proven right about that now that ireland have pretty much proven to everyone else that australia arent that great if you put the forwards under real pressure.

Remember the first test ab's vs ireland last year in NZ the irish were well up for that game against us and we still beat them with room to spare.

yeah but you forgot to mention that jamie heaslip was sent off after 10 mins which virtually ended the match as a contest, not saying you wouldnt have finished comfortable winners anyway but it is worth noting!

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Different match he meant the one in Dublin, that was also the Bloody New Zealanders (joke that only people who watch Setanta Ireland will get) best match since the Lions 05 Carter had a masterclass.

 

[Ostrayian]

Quite ammusing reading the kiwis and northern hemi's squabbling about rugby semantics when not long previously both were united in hoping for a Aus loss.
I think some of the Northern hemisphere supporters are making a mistake by judging Australias performance against Ireland (or against any team for that matter) as a measuring stick to estimate how well they can perform against New Zealand and South Africa. At times a different wallabies team steps out everytime they step on the pitch. The only thing anybody can gauge from the Ireland win is a blueprint to beat the wallabies(NZ did it more better in auckland this year) and the wallabies only. Different strategies and players skillsets are required to beat SA and NZ. Personally I think the strategy against australia wont work against SA or NZ in fact i dare any country to take on SA head on up front. I think you will find a team like SA will rellish the challange.
To put it into perspective and no disrespect to Irelands gallant effort in victory but NZ and SA would have put 30-40 points on the board against that wallabies performance.

 

[InsaneAsylum]

Quite ammusing reading the kiwis and northern hemi's squabbling about rugby semantics when not long previously both were united in hoping for a Aus loss.
I think some of the Northern hemisphere supporters are making a mistake by judging Australias performance against Ireland (or against any team for that matter) as a measuring stick to estimate how well they can perform against New Zealand and South Africa. At times a different wallabies team steps out everytime they step on the pitch. The only thing anybody can gauge from the Ireland win is a blueprint to beat the wallabies(NZ did it more better in auckland this year) and the wallabies only. Different strategies and players skillsets are required to beat SA and NZ. Personally I think the strategy against australia wont work against SA or NZ in fact i dare any country to take on SA head on up front. I think you will find a team like SA will rellish the challange.
To put it into perspective and no disrespect to Irelands gallant effort in victory but NZ and SA would have put 30-40 points on the board against that wallabies performance.

I have to agree with this in risk of being labelled a sore loser or whatever you want to call me, but the wallabies looked like they were taking an RDO.

 

[Dizzy]

Quite ammusing reading the kiwis and northern hemi's squabbling about rugby semantics when not long previously both were united in hoping for a Aus loss.
I think some of the Northern hemisphere supporters are making a mistake by judging Australias performance against Ireland (or against any team for that matter) as a measuring stick to estimate how well they can perform against New Zealand and South Africa. At times a different wallabies team steps out everytime they step on the pitch. The only thing anybody can gauge from the Ireland win is a blueprint to beat the wallabies(NZ did it more better in auckland this year) and the wallabies only. Different strategies and players skillsets are required to beat SA and NZ. Personally I think the strategy against australia wont work against SA or NZ in fact i dare any country to take on SA head on up front. I think you will find a team like SA will rellish the challange.
To put it into perspective and no disrespect to Irelands gallant effort in victory but NZ and SA would have put 30-40 points on the board against that wallabies performance.

Have to agree!.

 

[Peat]

Ostrayian speaks sense. Australia can - some days - be taken apart up front, but that ain't the same with NZ, and you've got to be madder than Charlie Sheen or made of concrete to think thats a smart way to play South Africa.

 

[sigesige00]

England's performance against Romania was poor. Scotland has a quite decent chance against England and Argentina, and finish 1st.

 

[erwanseb]

All those trying ot read the crystal ball should try instead reading the guts of a dead goose, it is a much more accurate predicting method.

 

[Dizzy]

Maybe I should learn French just so I can understand that comment!!

 

[Peat]

England's performance against Romania was poor. Scotland has a quite decent chance against England and Argentina, and finish 1st.

That's quite the crystal ball you've got there. Be a gent and tell me next week's lottery numbers while you're at it.

 

[Dizzy]

^^^ lmao, just realised the post haha

 

[cardassian]

Um, if the All Blacks can't beat Australia or South Africa in a semi final then obviously they don't deserve to win the world cup because they would not be in the final would they? Make sense?

Losing against France would presumably allow for an easier run to the final and I think if you ask, most New Zealanders would be perfectly happy for the All Blacks to throw a pool match if it meant winning the world cup. Winning the tounament is, after all, the goal.

If we started throwing games I'd never support us again.

 

[erwanseb]

Maybe I should learn French just so I can understand that comment!!

Soothsayers used to read the future inside the guts of dead poultry

 

[Black Heart]

you said...."I'm not taking anything away from Ireland because they played superbly well. But Australia played like crap last night." in other words if Austraila had been bothered they would have won because there is no way that Ireland are actually a better team...I mean come on Austraila are tri nation champions making them the best team in the world as there are only 3 teams in the world worth bothering with, its not like the NH teams ever make a difference in the WC is it? apart from 1999, 2003,2007 oh wait.

Oh boy. That wasn't the statement I was making at all.

You're reading what you want to read and are spinning my comments into an argument I was not making. My argument had nothing to do with why Ireland won the match. Here, I'll spell it out for you given that you're incapable of doing it yourself:

The comment was made by no-1-rugby-fan that, "Australia lack the physicality to threaten at this world cup." I disputed that opinion because it is a view point based soley on one game where Australia did not play well. Australia have all the physicality they need to win this world cup if they play to their full potential. This was the point being made.

Ireland could very well have beaten Australia if Australia had played at 100% I never suggested for a minute that that wouldn't be the case so don't bother trying to draw wild conclusions about what I actually said.

Do us both a favour and try reading next time.

 

[Muzzy]

the only thing i'm worried about is England are most likely to make the final yet again *sigh* 3 world cup finals in a row for england imagine the bragging rights they'll have . I don't really care if we have to play either Australia or South Africa in the semi final its the semi final they're supposed to be hard, i'm just worried about england making 3 grand finals in a row and doing it in NZ

 

[Jer1cho]

Well I for one can't see us beating Australia. If we play Francois Steyn at 12, Francois Hougaard at 11, Lambie at 15, and Bring on Alberts and Bismark early, then we are in with a shot.

Unfortunately, the stubborness of our coach in selecting dead weight players like Jean de Villiers, Bryan Habana and John Smit will be the ultimate undoing of our team in this tournament. It was fun while it lasted though. I was backing the Aussies to win the tournament had they played New Zealand in the final, but as it stands now, New Zealand won't have any problems winning this tournament. No Northern Hemisphere team can even dream about beating New Zealand in a WC final at Eden Park. Heck, all of France, Ireland, England or Wales would do well to lose by less than 30 points.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

3 world cup finals in a row for england imagine the bragging

You're mistaking English fans with Irish/Australian/South African fans

 

[Macsen]

the only thing i'm worried about is England are most likely to make the final yet again *sigh* 3 world cup finals in a row for england imagine the bragging rights they'll have .

Given results in the Six Nations I'd say England are about 75/25 to beat France and Ireland against Wales are about the same. Ireland would probably beat England, but would probably lose against France. Wales against England would be 50/50 but they'd lose against France too.

 

[TRF_heineken]

The only team allowed to have bragging rights are the team that wins the competition!

 

[UilamOsa]

If we started throwing games I'd never support us again.

Me too.

As well as every AB's supporter I know.

The AB's are about winning. And winning well. Irrespective of Style.


Sometimes they don't but alot of times they do.


It feels like Australia has become the new NZ, to become so reliant on 2 players.

David Pocock & Will Genia.