How confident are you about your country in the World Cup?

[Horacito]

McCaw has openly admit that he cheats.

He also says that it would be idiotic not to do it if he can help his team win, and that every time he gets on the pitch he first "testes" the referee to see how far he can go.

Admirable cheater indeed. We only hate him 'cause he's not one of us.

 

[Groundhog]

McCaw has openly admit that he cheats.

He also says that it would be idiotic not to do it if he can help his team win, and that every time he gets on the pitch he first "testes" the referee to see how far he can go.

Admirable cheater indeed. We only hate him 'cause he's not one of us.

What a wonderful typo

 

[ncurd]

I now have a vision of McCaw tea-bagging refs at the beginning of a match....

 

[goodNumber10]

I now have a vision of McCaw tea-bagging refs at the beginning of a match....

more likely the other way around...

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

I can't stand cheating open side flankers it is just wrong.

I'm just glad Leicester have standards.

 

[Horacito]

haha!

I know is a sensitive matter between irish, but the fact is that is easier for them to travel to stadiums inside britain, so they will be in "home" in almost every match.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

haha!

I know is a sensitive matter between irish, but the fact is that is easier for them to travel to stadiums inside britain, so they will be in "home" in almost every match.

Trust me, being geographically close does not make the British stadiums "Home" at all. The Welsh have even less distance to travel to reach Twickers yet still moan about having to play away (never understood that, I thought it was an English bid for the world cup so by rights Wales shouldn't have any games at the Millenium stadium)

 

[MotherRucker1]

McCaw has openly admit that he cheats.

He also says that it would be idiotic not to do it if he can help his team win, and that every time he gets on the pitch he first "testes" the referee to see how far he can go.

Admirable cheater indeed. We only hate him 'cause he's not one of us.

Is that so?

Are you sure McCaw said that? Or was was it a guy named Horacito wearing a McCaw wig with hot little keyboard fingers?

 

[Unol Daleithiau]

I really wouldn't refer Ireland as 'playing at home' or British....

British Isles might be what he meant.

 

[Horacito]

I am positively sure he said it:

"As long as I am not putting the team under heaps of pressure, you have to still be at the point of knowing what you can get away and what you can't."

http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/wallabies/all-blacks-richie-mccaw-tests-referees-to-know-what-you-can-get-away-with/story-e6frf55l-1225923291925

From my point of view, McCaw is just somebody who can slip through the cracks of human performance (in this case the referee) and get results for his team. To me is actually perfectly legal, after all we all agree to obey referees criteria.

 

[Unol Daleithiau]

I thought it was an English bid for the world cup so by rights Wales shouldn't have any games at the Millennium stadium

Because the English west country have better access to an elite venue in Cardiff.

The English need to stop moaning.

 

[nickdnz]

I love the people who moan about McCaw being a cheat. He's an openside flanker, his job is to get turnover ball. It's up the the referees to decide whether he does that legally.

The only people with any right to complain are the English. They're completely ignorant of the concept of an openside flanker, having not had one in years.

 

[TRF_heineken]

I love the people who moan about McCaw being a cheat. He's an openside flanker, his job is to get turnover ball. It's up the the referees to decide whether he does that legally.

The only people with any right to complain are the English. They're completely ignorant of the concept of an openside flanker, having not had one in years.

They might have had openside flankers in years... But they do have cheats...

 

[goodNumber10]

I love the people who moan about McCaw being a cheat. He's an openside flanker, his job is to get turnover ball. It's up the the referees to decide whether he does that legally.

The only people with any right to complain are the English. They're completely ignorant of the concept of an openside flanker, having not had one in years.

so, according to you, it's ok to cheat as long as you get away with it?

 

[MotherRucker1]

He works within the referee's interpretations and adjudications of the law, constantly testing what the limits are. Nobody is going to be more controversial than a number 7 because it's the one person on the field charged primarily with getting the ball back, and people always have their own ways of judging whether it was a legitimate steal, or whether he detached from the scrum at the right moment. "McCaw is a cheat" as a blanket statement just doesn't really work, or make much sense. Sometimes it's all in the timing and a few seconds can make all the difference. At times Pocock is excellent, and at times I've seen him penalized by a marginal call - no big deal. That doesn't mean a player spends his entire career cheating, or is deserving of a harsh label like that. It's just an ignorant thing to say really and makes me question whether people who say it actually understand rugby.

 

[Horacito]

So... somebody works out of the limits of the law and gets away with it, but he is not a cheater, he is the explorer of the vast lands outside the regulation, he is the Magallanes of rugby, discovering wider horizonss for all intrepid flankers in the world.

Jesus man.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Because the English west country have better access to an elite venue in Cardiff.

The English need to stop moaning.

Funny, because it's been the Welsh *****ing and moaning about the fact you can't play your games at Cardiff. You might need reminding that England are the host nation, not Wales. Also funny seeing the amount of butthurt some of the Kiwis are showing over saint McCaw being even slightly criticised.

 

[nickdnz]

so, according to you, it's ok to cheat as long as you get away with it?

That's being overly reductive. If you are getting away with things due to referees interpreting it as legal play, you are not in fact cheating. It's why rugby has laws rather than rules. You are working within interpretations. No one says an entire backline cheats when they employ rush defenses while being offside. They work within what is allocated to them from the referees and adjust accordingly. It is amusing that McCaw is targeted time and again for this - as if every player doesn't contest for the ball to the extent they assume won't be penalized. It just seems the complaints are born out of bitter frustration that results from continually losing.

He works within the referee's interpretations and adjudications of the law, constantly testing what the limits are. Nobody is going to be more controversial than a number 7 because it's the one person on the field charged primarily with getting the ball back, and people always have their own ways of judging whether it was a legitimate steal, or whether he detached from the scrum at the right moment. "McCaw is a cheat" as a blanket statement just doesn't really work, or make much sense. Sometimes it's all in the timing and a few seconds can make all the difference. At times Pocock is excellent, and at times I've seen him penalized by a marginal call - no big deal. That doesn't mean a player spends his entire career cheating, or is deserving of a harsh label like that. It's just an ignorant thing to say really and makes me question whether people who say it actually understand rugby.

Exactly this.

 

[Unol Daleithiau]

Funny, because it's been the Welsh *****ing and moaning about the fact you can't play your games at Cardiff.

I agree with you there (about England v Wales). England is the home nation and should be playing at home. Wales playing Uruguay and Fiji in Cardiff make sense in terms of drawing the crowd. I do not see a problem playing Australia in London, as that will draw a large crowd by default.

 

[nickdnz]

Also funny seeing the amount of butthurt some of the Kiwis are showing over saint McCaw being even slightly criticised.

Gr8 b8 m8.

I think people are just tired of the same old diatribes some English posters go on. If ya can't beat em', discredit them..