George North

[Logorrhea]

Posting images that has no relevant to the argument is exactly what I am on about.

Sorry, couldnt find the toys out of the pram one. Probably would have been more accurate.

The whole Irish thing was brought in because ........

Cant believe your even trying to justify it. Funny stuff.

Somewhere in there, there's a half decent point about people not getting carried away, but you've said it in such a stupid bloody way, that Cymro and others are completely justified in calling you a bit of an idiot.

Sorry, should I say it in a more sympathetic way? Maybe I should have agreed with the Lomu comparison, add in another few positives about how hes a big lad, awesome brain, the world is at his feet, and most importantly opposition players and coaches havent a hope of analysing how he plays because hes awesomely welsh. You would prefer if I didnt bring the real world into this particular fanboy session?

Stop being such a bunch of girls. If you think there is something inaccurate in what I say, point it out, otherwise shut up and enjoy the real world of intelligent two-sided conversation, where people dont necessarily share your ideal view of the world.

Edit: Its kinda funny how the level of conversation has gone so low on this forum that every arguement is an excuse to quote "precious" or scream "troll" and "WUM". All playera are rated by their ability to carry the ball or score tries and no one seems too interested in discussing rugby at a decent level anymore. When challenged they attack the poster, not the content.

I remember this forum 4 years ago for the last world cup. Jammed with intelligent and passionate debate about rugby at all levels. Now? Spammed full of gamers who havent the slightest clue about the game itself, and one particular poster that seesm to think volume, not quality is important. Add to that a moderator that now seems to think I post based on my dislike of Welsh players and you have to question where this forum is going.

Seriously lads, you should be encouraging conversation, not diluting it down to suit the lowest common denominator. If you dont agree, argue the content, not the motive.

Either way, I think I'll leave you to it. Best of luck for the rest of the world cup.

 

[Draggs]

Mate, no one is against intelligent debate.
If someone were to come along and say what they thought with justification then that is fine. What has happened though is that you came into this topic, and made rash statements without seemingly thinking and trying to start a war here.

Yeah, George North is given plenty of time in the media and many have high hopes for him. Looking at his performances for Wales and the Scarlets, then it could be rationalised.
I don't think anyone really cares what anyone else thinks of North, and their responses were more to do with the way that you stated it.
If you think North is the new Banahan, than that's fantastic, glad to hear it. You can have whatever opinion you feel, just try to make an attempt at a decent post while doing it.

 

[psychic duck]

To compare George North to Banahan is a joke

North has better hands
North doesn't attempt stupid things that he is unable to do (SBW offloads)
North is a lot quicker
North is a lot more agile
North is a better finisher

I could go on ...

but he is a lot better than Banahan for sure

 

[Draggs]

To compare George North to Banahan is a joke

North has better hands
North doesn't attempt stupid things that he is unable to do (SBW offloads)
North is a lot quicker
North is a lot more agile
North is a better finisher

I could go on ...

but he is a lot better than Banahan for sure

But Banahan is a 6'7" wing, he must be good!

 

[j-dawg]

North may be better than Banahan, but he's no Steve Borthwick

 

[Draggs]

Steve Hanley, he was a big lad, whatever happened to him?
Seemed like a great player. I bet he would crush Craig Quinnell if they ever went head-to-head.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

He retired a few years ago (end of 08 maybe?)

Still highest try scorer in the premiership though

 

[Draggs]

He retired a few years ago (end of 08 maybe?)

Still highest try scorer in the premiership though

OK. I remember him scoring on his debut against us in 1999 before the Mad Hippo ran him over.
He and Barrie Jon Mather were both big backs. Never played again I think.

Waaaay OT now...

North at 13 with Roberts at 12, pretty hefty midfield. Probably bigger than SBW and Nonu.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

OK. I remember him scoring on his debut against us in 1999 before the Mad Hippo ran him over.

Literally just watched that clip on youtube, he got absolutely done!
Never go that high on a guy as massive as Quinnell :lol:

But yeah, wwwaaayyy off topic


I genuinely think that North is one of the most talented youngsters on the international scene. Considering how good he is at 19, it's mad!

I look forward to seeing him and Tuilagi tearing it up for the Lions in 2013

 

[j'nuh]

Yeah, +1 to the not getting North in the centers crew. In Hook, Roberts, Davies, Henson, Scott Williams, Bishop (and whichever youth players will come through soon) Wales have incredible depth, youth and experience in the centers. Also, some of these players have to be included in a XV (Hook, Roberts when on form in particular). Meanwhile, with Shane retiring from international duty and Halfpenny or Stoddart being moved to fullback, Wales may lose a bit of depth and quality on the wing. (How is Fussell doing? I remember being impressed by him.) So I don't understand the need to make a first choice winger into a potentially third or fourth choice center.

 

[dullonien]

Sorry, should I say it in a more sympathetic way? Maybe I should have agreed with the Lomu comparison, add in another few positives about how hes a big lad, awesome brain, the world is at his feet, and most importantly opposition players and coaches havent a hope of analysing how he plays because hes awesomely welsh. You would prefer if I didnt bring the real world into this particular fanboy session?

Stop being such a bunch of girls. If you think there is something inaccurate in what I say, point it out, otherwise shut up and enjoy the real world of intelligent two-sided conversation, where people dont necessarily share your ideal view of the world.

Edit: Its kinda funny how the level of conversation has gone so low on this forum that every arguement is an excuse to quote "precious" or scream "troll" and "WUM". All playera are rated by their ability to carry the ball or score tries and no one seems too interested in discussing rugby at a decent level anymore. When challenged they attack the poster, not the content.

I remember this forum 4 years ago for the last world cup. Jammed with intelligent and passionate debate about rugby at all levels. Now? Spammed full of gamers who havent the slightest clue about the game itself, and one particular poster that seesm to think volume, not quality is important. Add to that a moderator that now seems to think I post based on my dislike of Welsh players and you have to question where this forum is going.

Seriously lads, you should be encouraging conversation, not diluting it down to suit the lowest common denominator. If you dont agree, argue the content, not the motive.

Either way, I think I'll leave you to it. Best of luck for the rest of the world cup.

Pah, you're a self confessed WUM on occasion. Hell, your self given ***le reads 'Chief Trouble Maker', and I'm pretty sure that is exactly hat you are doing in this thread. You're perfectly capable of participating in those intelligent debates you mentioned, but you entered this thread with some snide remark about Henson (because you know it winds some Welsh posters up), and then continued to use two very uncomplimentary adjectives about North (overhyped and under-talented). Whether or not he is overhyped is a matter of opinion, but he is not 'under-talented (though suitably oversized)' as you said, and you don't really have a leg to stand on. He's demonstrated at every level that he's a class winger, who possesses all the skills, as others have pointed out he's not another Matt Banahan, not by a long shot! Hopefully he's not the finished article either, but as far as the first 10 caps of an international career goes, it doesn't get much better than what North has achieved, what more can he do to prove that in all probability he's got one hell of a future in front of him? It may not end up that way, but is it wrong for some people to get excited about what might be?

 

[dullonien]

Another huge performance from North against Fiji. Just let us know when you change your mind about him Logorrhea

 

[cyRil]

Absolutely immense today. I think he's quite good, but don't lambaste me for saying that...

 

[TRF_Cymro]

Absolutely immense today. I think he's quite good, but don't lambaste me for saying that...

I've judged you ...

 

[rhifsaith]

aye tidy.let's hope our opponents next weekend do the same.

 

[TRF_Ezequiel]

Been following him since his Welsh debut last year and can say I'm a real fan of him. It's interesting to see where this will end. Of course his tries were only against Namibia and Fiji, 2 of the weakest teams at the World Cup, but still...

 

[DuncTheDoodle]

I dream of one day playing against George North, so when I inevitably get smashed by him, I can say he's touched me...

 

[timrees]

To all posters of the non-welsh variety. A simple question, would you rather the likes of North, Warburton, Lydiate and Toby F, et al be in your squads or are they of such little threat that you are happier playing against them? How good these YOUNG men are is subjective, what suits one team mightn't suit another. Just remember that by 2015 these men will still only be 23, 24 and 25 years of age. They may even then be short of their prime. We wil just have to watch and see how good, bad or indifferent they turn out to be. I for one am very very excited about the future of welsh rugby.

 

[Peat]

To all posters of the non-welsh variety. A simple question, would you rather the likes of North, Warburton, Lydiate and Toby F, et al be in your squads or are they of such little threat that you are happier playing against them? How good these YOUNG men are is subjective, what suits one team mightn't suit another. Just remember that by 2015 these men will still only be 23, 24 and 25 years of age. They may even then be short of their prime. We wil just have to watch and see how good, bad or indifferent they turn out to be. I for one am very very excited about the future of welsh rugby.

Lydiate - Would take him, but probably wouldn't get much playing time for England. 6 is one of our strongest positions. That said, I'm not sure how much I rate him, and he might improve... to put this another way, I don't think he's going to Australia as a Lion in 2013 without substantial improvement or lots of injuries.

Warburton - Would kill for a 7 of his quality. Given that Tom Rees is always injured, he would be a certain English starter and captain in short order. If Rees wasn't always injured, it would be a hell of a tustle. Probably the next Lions captain.

North - Well, he's certainly better than Banahan... full judgement reserved, but has incredible potential, you don't get talents like him every day. Certainly would prefer him to think himself English rather than Welsh, even if long term I'm not sure he'd start (he'd probably start now ironically). Probably touring as a Lion if only because of his freak factor.

Faletau - Again, great potential, waiting to see what would happen... and just any talent that plays 8 on a regular basis would be great for England. Possibly a tourer, wouldn't like to call how that one would go.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Warburton - Would kill for a 7 of his quality. Given that Tom Rees is always injured, he would be a certain English starter and captain in short order. If Rees wasn't always injured, it would be a hell of a tustle. Probably the next Lions captain.

Remember this face:

If Johnson has even 1/10th of a brain he'll be coming to an England 7 shirt near you very soon