Exile teams

[Peat]

Bryan Young's retired. Brian Blaney's the other option at hooker. John O'Sullivan of Agen if he's not retired at 8

 

[Feicarsinn]

15) Niall Morris (Leicester)
14) Shane Morahan (Gloucester)
13) Danny Barnes (Newcastle)
12) Ian Whitten (Exeter)
11) Eamonn Sheridan (London Irish)
10) Jonathan Sexton (Racing)
9) Tomás O'Leary (London Irish)
8) Michael Noone (Leicester)
7) Ali Birch? (Rotherham)
6) Robin Copeland (Cardiff)
5) Ryan Caldwell (Bath)
4) Tommy Hayes (Exeter)
3) Jamie Hagan (London Irish)
2) Tom Sexton (Melbourne Rebels)
1) Tony Buckley (Sale) - Can't be any more useless

Aside from half back and it's certainly a weaker team than a few years back. I suppose this is to be expected with Connacht getting a lot of Heineken Cup rugby recently. Less incentive to leave the country. That back row is utterly useless, but aside from that it's a mid-lower table premiership team.​

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[Draggs]

I've got time to waste. Let's do this.

1. Paul James (Bath)
2. Marc Jones (Sale)
3. Craig Mitchell (Exeter)
4. Luke Charteris (Perpignan)
5. Dom Day (Bath)
6. Dan Lydiate (Racing Metro)
7. ?
8. Gareth Delve (Japan)/Kieran Murphy (Brive)

9. Mike Phillips (Bayonne)
10. James Hook (Perpignan)
11. Shane Williams (Japan)
12. Jamie Roberts (Racing Metro)
13. Gavin Henson?
14. Aled Brew (Biarritz)
15. Lee Byrne (Clermont)

Updated somewhat

 

[Peat]

Started doing an England one then found it quite difficult. The outward flow has been greatly reversed this season. Doesn't help that if an English player goes to the Celtic League, they'll end up declared for whoever before you can say "Poach".

Think you'd probably swap Whitten and Sheridan in that Ireland one.

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

Updated SA

1 Guthro Steenkamp
2 Schalk Brits
3 Brian Mujati
4 Bakkies Botha
5 Juandre Kruger
6 Francois Louw
7 Juan Smith confirmed yet?
8 hell there are a lot of SA loosies out there- I have no idea what combo would be best
9 Fourie du Preez
10 Morne Steyn
11 Bryan Habana
12 Wynand Olivier
13 Jaque Fourie
14 JP Pietersen
15 Louis Ludik

16 Heinke van der Merwe
17 Chiliboy Ralepele
18 Danie Rossouw /Gerhard Mostert
19 Gerhard Vosloo maybe or I liked CJ Stander?
20 Rory Kockott / Jano Vermaak -can't decide
21 Ruan Pienaar
22 Zane Kirchner


Was very tempted to include Richardt Strauss, Bernard le Roux, Antonie Claassen and the like but I suppose I should stop thinking of them as South African.

I'd like to see an updated NZ one; could have a very scary backline!

 

[TRF_heineken]

Updated SA

1 Guthro Steenkamp
2 Schalk Brits
3 Brian Mujati
4 Bakkies Botha
5 Juandre Kruger
6 Francois Louw
7 Juan Smith confirmed yet?
8 hell there are a lot of SA loosies out there- I have no idea what combo would be best
9 Fourie du Preez
10 Morne Steyn
11 Bryan Habana
12 Wynand Olivier
13 Jaque Fourie
14 JP Pietersen
15 Louis Ludik

16 Heinke van der Merwe
17 Chiliboy Ralepele
18 Danie Rossouw /Gerhard Mostert
19 Gerhard Vosloo maybe or I liked CJ Stander?
20 Rory Kockott / Jano Vermaak -can't decide
21 Ruan Pienaar
22 Zane Kirchner


Was very tempted to include Richardt Strauss, Bernard le Roux, Antonie Claassen and the like but I suppose I should stop thinking of them as South African.

I'd like to see an updated NZ one; could have a very scary backline!

1 Guthro Steenkamp
2 Schalk Brits/Chilliboy Ralepelle
3 Brian Mujati/BJ Botha
4 Bakkies Botha/Johann Muller
5 Juandre Kruger/Danie Rossouw
6 Francois Louw
7 Juan Smith confirmed yet? (don't know) - CJ Stander/Dewald Potgieter/Jacques Potgieter
8 Joe Van Niekerk/Shaun Sowerby
9 Fourie du Preez
10 Morne Steyn
11 Bryan Habana
12 Wynand Olivier/Robert Ebersohn
13 Jaque Fourie
14 JP Pietersen
15 Louis Ludik/Joe Pietersen

16 Heinke van der Merwe
17 Gary Botha
18 Danie Rossouw /Gerhard Mostert
19 Gerhard Vosloo
20 Rory Kockott / Jano Vermaak / Michael Claasens
21 Ruan Pienaar
22 Zane Kirchner

Added a few guys here and there...

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

I liked Ernst Joubert as a possible 8 as well. Not too flash but a better option IMO than the Ashley Johnsons, Josh Strausses and the like.

I forgot about Rob Ebersohn. Sias is an option on the bench as well to cover 10/15. Sam Gerber and Gavin Hume are option midfield as well. Paul Bosch and Corne Uys on the fringes. Danie Poolman a promising youngster as well.

 

[Feicarsinn]

Bloody hell, those are powerful sides.

 

[ratsapprentice]

1 Andrew Sheridan
2
3 Max Lahiff?
4
5 Erik Lund (He's a Manc, let's be honest)
6 Magnus Lund
7 Steffon Armitage
8 Luke Narraway
9
10 Johnny Wilkinson
11 Ian Bolshaw
12 Olly Barkley
13
14 Richard Houghton
15 Delon Armitage

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

Help me with a NZ exiles team..

1 Tialata out of position?
2 Is Hika Elliot based outside NZ ATM? Otherwise De Malmanche
3 Carl Hayman / John Afoa
4
5
6 Jerome Kaino
7
8
9
10 Nick Evans
11 Hosea Gear
12 SBW
13 Rene Ranger
14 Siteveni Sivivatu
15 If Muliaina is too old maybe Jared Payne or am I forgetting someone?

16 Carl Hayman / John Afoa
17
18
20
21 Steven Donald
22 Richard Kahui

 

[Feicarsinn]

Help me with a NZ exiles team..

1 Tialata out of position?
2 Is Hika Elliot based outside NZ ATM? Otherwise De Malmanche
3 Carl Hayman / John Afoa
4 Ali Williams
5 Craig Clarke
6 Jerome Kaino
7 Chris Masoe
8 Nick Williams?
9 Brendon Leonard
10 Nick Evans
11 Hosea Gear
12 SBW
13 Rene Ranger
14 Siteveni Sivivatu
15 If Muliaina is too old maybe Jared Payne or am I forgetting someone?

16 Carl Hayman / John Afoa
17
18
20
21 Steven Donald
22 Richard Kahui

Added a few in bold, although I'm sure there are better informed parties.

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

Added a few in bold, although I'm sure there are better informed parties.

Thanks. TBH I shouldn't even have tried; I almost included Fotoali'i and Taumololo before I caught myself- tend to see everyone playing for NZ teams in SR as NZ players.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Help me with a NZ exiles team..

1 Tialata out of position?
2 Is Hika Elliot based outside NZ ATM? Otherwise De Malmanche
3 Carl Hayman / John Afoa
4 Ali Williams
5 Craig Clarke
6 Jerome Kaino
7 Dan Braid
8 Chris Masoe
9 Jimmy Cowan
10 Nick Evans
11 Hosea Gear
12 SBW
13 Rene Ranger
14 Siteveni Sivivatu
15 If Muliaina is too old maybe Jared Payne or am I forgetting someone?

16 Michael Mayhew
17 Carl Hayman / John Afoa
18 Bryn Evans
19 Nick Williams
20 Brendon Leonard
21 Steven Donald
22 Richard Kahui

Added a few in bold, although I'm sure there are better informed parties.

Changed a little bit by moi, to make up the numbers.

 

[psychic duck]

15) Niall Morris (Leicester)
14) Shane Morahan (Gloucester)
13) Danny Barnes (Newcastle)
12) Ian Whitten (Exeter)
11) Eamonn Sheridan (London Irish)
10) Jonathan Sexton (Racing)
9) Tomás O'Leary (London Irish)
8) Michael Noone (Leicester)
7) Ali Birch? (Rotherham)
6) Robin Copeland (Cardiff)
5) Ryan Caldwell (Bath)
4) Tommy Hayes (Exeter)
3) Jamie Hagan (London Irish)
2) Tom Sexton (Melbourne Rebels)
1) Tony Buckley (Sale) - Can't be any more useless

Aside from half back and it's certainly a weaker team than a few years back. I suppose this is to be expected with Connacht getting a lot of Heineken Cup rugby recently. Less incentive to leave the country. That back row is utterly useless, but aside from that it's a mid-lower table premiership team.​

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Can't agree with that. That side would not be good enough to stay in the Premiership let alone near mid table, even with Sexton there. How many of those players are first choice starters for their clubs? I guess it shows how good Ireland are keeping their players, not just the internationals, but the essential provincial players who are required to keep the standard decent when the elite players are so often away.

 

[ZeFrenchy]

Changed a little bit by moi, to make up the numbers.

At 15 you could play Bruce Reihanna or Scott Hamilton. Other NZ players in France: Daniel Kirkpatrick, Stephen Brett, Joe Rokocoko, Kevin Senio, Luke McAlister, David Smith, Rudi Wulf, Benson Stanley, Regan King, Saimone Taumopeau (there you have a LH prop, and a good one). If I was to make a side, I'd take yours, add Taumoepeau at 1, McAlister at 12 (SBW plays another sport, I don't think he counts), Rokocoko instead of Gear and Scott Hamilton at 15.

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

The sad thing is with the PI nations their 'exiles' team is their standing test team with the exception of a few quality Fijians who forgo playing for their country over their club. Sad. Anther sad thing is that I think the SA 'exiles' side is stronger than our current test team if we were to not allow them to play;

Steenkamp > Mtawarira
Brits < Du PLessis/Strauss
Mujati > Du Plessis
Botha = Etzebeth
Louw = Brussow
=
= unless Spies then >
FdP/Pienaar/Vermaak/Kockott > Hougie
Steyn > Lambie (I'm not counting Goosen as he hasn't played in an age)
Habana & Pietersen > Mvovo & Basson
Ebersohn =< JdV.. can't decide
Fourie > Englbrecht
Habana & Pietersen > Mvovo & Basson
Kirchner < Le Roux (not counting Taute ATM)

T_T

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

At 15 you could play Bruce Reihanna or Scott Hamilton. Other NZ players in France: Daniel Kirkpatrick, Stephen Brett, Joe Rokocoko, Kevin Senio, Luke McAlister, David Smith, Rudi Wulf, Benson Stanley, Regan King, Saimone Taumopeau (there you have a LH prop, and a good one). If I was to make a side, I'd take yours, add Taumoepeau at 1, McAlister at 12 (SBW plays another sport, I don't think he counts), Rokocoko instead of Gear and Scott Hamilton at 15.

I'd rather have one of Tamati Ellison or Richard Kahui with McAlister on the bench if SBW is left out. Or both with Ranger on the wing if you don't like Hosea Gear.

 

[dullonien]

Updated somewhat

George North?

 

[Draggs]

George North?

Yeah. Was half asleep when I posted it.