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EOYT: Wales vs New Zealand, 24/11/2012

I don't think the ref has been bad... A couple of mistakes, but that's expected...
 
I don't think the ref has been bad... A couple of mistakes, but that's expected...

They've been big mistakes though. 1. missed the cheap shot on Bradley which probably deserved a red. 2. crazy decision to penalise Warbs giving NZ 3 points. 3. missed forward pass in the lead up to the try.

Still our own fault we're behind. Poor first up tackling, silly mistakes (knock ons etc.) & Priestland missing touch twice.

Edit. This is going to be a massacre! I can see the final score being 50+ with Wales possibly on 0, maybe one or two long-range penalties from Halfpenny.
 
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Okay when the mistakes are not for NZ no?

No need to get antsy, some people are actually capable of assessing a game without getting all worked up based on who they support ;) No need to get excited

Do you disagree with what I said? Definitely the two errors have favoured NZ, but like I said, a couple of mistakes is expected. When you only have a couple of errors there's a pretty good chance those errors will favour one side - statistics!

They've been big mistakes though. 1. missed the cheap shot on Bradley which probably deserved a red. 2. crazy decision to penalise Warbs giving NZ 3 points. 3. missed forward pass in the lead up to the try.

Still our own fault we're behind. Poor first up tackling, silly mistakes (knock ons etc.) & Priestland missing touch twice.

1 - Yellow card offence, sure, not even close to being a red card though.
2 - Wrong decision? Definitely. Poor decision? It's easy to see how he came to the conclusion, his view was impeded etc.
3 - Didn't look forward to me, but I haven't seen it too many times admittedly.
 
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They've been big mistakes though. 1. missed the cheap shot on Bradley which probably deserved a red. 2. crazy decision to penalise Warbs giving NZ 3 points. 3. missed forward pass in the lead up to the try.

Still our own fault we're behind. Poor first up tackling, silly mistakes (knock ons etc.) & Priestland missing touch twice.

Edit. This is going to be a massacre! I can see the final score being 50+ with Wales possibly on 0, maybe one or two long-range penalties from Halfpenny.

Agreed with this 100%

Queues for drinks at the MS are rather large.

No need to get antsy, some people are actually capable of assessing a game without getting all worked up based on who they support ;) No need to get excited

Do you disagree with what I said? Definitely the two errors have favoured NZ, but like I said, a couple of mistakes is expected. When you only have a couple of errors there's a pretty good chance those errors will favour one side - statistics!

Rather pathetic response.

Just because I am a Wales fan I cannot say something about the referee, just for the simple fact we are losing. That is always a reason people give, it's not a good enough reason. Sorry didn't realise I couldn't comment or make a comment. I will in future watch so I don't offend somebody so precious.

Sorry.

Oh and the referee has probably cost us 10 points but NZ are rightfully infront. As I agree with what Dull said.
 
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ABs in control at HT.
Messam, Whitelock, Cruden, C Smith, and Dagg all playing very well.
Williams (the one on the wing) has been good for Wales on defense. Basic handling has been Wales biggest issue.
 
No need to get antsy, some people are actually capable of assessing a game without getting all worked up based on who they support ;) No need to get excited

Do you disagree with what I said? Definitely the two errors have favoured NZ, but like I said, a couple of mistakes is expected. When you only have a couple of errors there's a pretty good chance those errors will favour one side - statistics!

Nah, he's been very poor. Inconsistent in the ruck and scrum, and missed all the big decisions (along with his assistants). Doesn't matter though, Wales have been generally poor, although with more fight than the last two games.
 
Nah, he's been very poor. Inconsistent in the ruck and scrum, and missed all the big decisions (along with his assistants). Doesn't matter though, Wales have been generally poor, although with more fight than the last two games.

What are the scrum inconsistencies? Besides that one error at the ruck where he pinged Warburton (and again, less a judgement thing more a vision thing) they've looked pretty good too.
 
Nah, he's been very poor. Inconsistent in the ruck and scrum, and missed all the big decisions (along with his assistants). Doesn't matter though, Wales have been generally poor, although with more fight than the last two games.

Dull Andrews has won 2 penalties? one of which I thought he was lucky to get.

The one with the wheeling we should have been awarded a penalty but Joubert been ok at scrum.
 
What are the scrum inconsistencies? Besides that one error at the ruck where he pinged Warburton (and again, less a judgement thing more a vision thing) they've looked pretty good too.

Scrum inconsistently's have generally gone Wales way imo. What other decisions has the ref had to make though. He correctly penalised Liam Williams for going off his feet towards the end, but don't remember any other decision where I was felt thinking, yup correct decision ref.
 
Wales are playing incredibly stupid rugby. Had they taken 9 points when they had their chances they would not have conceded 23 points I don't think.

Edit: Sent you one BG8
 
Don't usually blame the ref, but this performance is pathetic. If you get decisions wrong against the greatest team in the world, it destroys the opposite team, not good enough.
 
Wales aren't good enough, forget about the ref! Jon Davies and Halfpenny look dangerous but are knocking everything on in contact. We can't get any phases going with all these mistakes.

Cuthbert get's some space for the first time in three games!
 
Learn how to tackle Cuthbert! He's almost as big as a lock, he needs to use that size in the tackle.
 

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