England vs South Africa 20 / 11 / 2021

[ncurd]

Underhill done dirty by Brace there.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Did he ping Sam for coming in from the side?

 

[BiggusLaddus]

I'm sure there was a knock on and the touch judge called it and Brace ignored it.

Could be wrong, but it sounded to me like Brace was asking the TMO to check.

 

[Wasps92]

England just playing into their hands now.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Hope Stuart has had his weetabix

 

[Welsh Exile]

If the ball is playable it shouldn't be a penalty
Scrums are the worst thing about this sport, and it's not even close

Just play the game ffs

The common response I here to your comment is "if you don't like scrums go watch league" which is a strawman. Every likes a well contested scrum battle but as you say, when the ball is playable it should just be get the fucker out and get on with the game.

Without detailing the thread there was a few scrums in the Wales v SA game where it seemed the ball was at the 8s feet for about 5 seconds both sides holding well but the ref just waits ages until there's an infringement or SA get a second shove on. Annoying. Must of wasted about 5 mins or so of in game time. Stopping the clock at scrum time would be a good start.

 

[Reiser99]

Ok, so I know Jones still likes a kick, but one thing kicking to compete increases is knock ons and when your scrums are struggling you don't want to create more chances for knock ons. England really need to keep ball in hand more.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Hope Stuart has had his weetabix

Homie got shreddies

 

[Wasps92]

Ok, so I know Jones still likes a kick, but one thing kicking to compete increases is knock ons and when your scrums are struggling you don't want to create more chances for knock ons. England really need to keep ball in hand more.

******* brain dead mate.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

The common response I here to your comment is "if you don't like scrums go watch league" which is a strawman. Every likes a well contested scrum battle but as you say, when the ball is playable it should just be get the fucker out and get on with the game.

Without detailing the thread there was a few scrums in the Wales v SA game where it seemed the ball was at the 8s feet for about 5 seconds both sides holding well but the ref just waits ages until there's an infringement or SA get a second shove on. Annoying. Must of wasted about 5 mins or so of in game time. Stopping the clock at scrum time would be a good start.

Yeah, scrums are a way to restart the game - if it's possible to restart from whatever mess is on the pitch then it should be restarted

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

Bok scrum getting its act together.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Getting absolutely smashed come scrum time Again.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

We abandoned the tactics that got us the lead and are instead playing to their game. Why do we keep doing this?

 

[ncurd]

The common response I here to your comment is "if you don't like scrums go watch league" which is a strawman. Every likes a well contested scrum battle but as you say, when the ball is playable it should just be get the fucker out and get on with the game.

Without detailing the thread there was a few scrums in the Wales v SA game where it seemed the ball was at the 8s feet for about 5 seconds both sides holding well but the ref just waits ages until there's an infringement or SA get a second shove on. Annoying. Must of wasted about 5 mins or so of in game time. Stopping the clock at scrum time would be a good start.

Exhibit A just happened.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Bev goes off, scrum goes to shreds

Not surprised

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Forwards getting destroyed now

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

The common response I here to your comment is "if you don't like scrums go watch league" which is a strawman. Every likes a well contested scrum battle but as you say, when the ball is playable it should just be get the fucker out and get on with the game.

Without detailing the thread there was a few scrums in the Wales v SA game where it seemed the ball was at the 8s feet for about 5 seconds both sides holding well but the ref just waits ages until there's an infringement or SA get a second shove on. Annoying. Must of wasted about 5 mins or so of in game time. Stopping the clock at scrum time would be a good start.

Just implement use it or lose it. No reason to stop the clock unless you want to bring the game down to 35 minute halves. But yeah my favorite ref state side tells teams he'll reset if they look for a penalty after the initial drive instead of playing the ball and it makes the game much better.

 

[Welsh Exile]

This is like the 2nd half Wales game when SA destroyed us in the scrum. When SA get like this it's hard to bet against them.

 

[Duck a l'Orange]

International rugby does feel more and more like scraps of play between penalties. Eng Vs Aus last week was the epitome.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Brace trying to penalise Malins for....tackling someone