England Training Squad

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Couldn't score when it really mattered though.

Bet your praying Brie don't get up!

Varndell has 5 less tries but has played a lot less AP games than him.

 

[Patchey]

2007. That is all.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

2007. That is all.

All that work the golden boy Tait did to set it up!

God I feel sick thinking about it!

Varndell would have scored.

 

[Patchey]

All that work the golden boy Tait did to set it up!

God I feel sick thinking about it!

Cueto ruined Matt Tait's career.

Down with Cueto.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

2007. That is all.

5 of the top try scorers were called Tom that year.

 

[yaboyjj]

Right, time for the final 31 predictions/hopes-
My hopes:

Props - Cole, Mako, Marler, Corbs (dependent on form improvement over summer), Brookes
Hookers - T Youngs, George, Cowan-Dickie
Locks - Launchbury, Lawes, Attwood, Itoje
Flankers - Kvesic, Robshaw, Wood
Number 8s - Morgan, Billy

Scrum-halves - B Youngs, Wigglesworth, Simpson
Fly-halves - Ford, Farrell
Centres - Barritt, Joseph, Slade, Daly
Wingers - Nowell, May, Yarde
Fullbacks - Brown, Watson


what I predict he will actually pick:

Props - Cole, Mako, Marler, Wilson, Brookes
Hookers - T Youngs, Webber, Cowan-Dickie
Locks - Launchbury, Lawes, Parling, Slater
Flankers - Haskell (Burgess?), Robshaw, Wood
Number 8s - Morgan, Billy

Scrum-halves - B Youngs, Wigglesworth, Care
Fly-halves - Ford, Farrell
Centres - Barritt, Joseph, Burrell, 36
Wingers - Nowell, May, Watson
Fullbacks - Brown, Goode

 

[ZeroTwo]

I'd love for Cips to make it in as a third fly half, or have Goode as a fullback covering fly-half as I think that team is short on kicking options.

My dream team

1. Cole (Wilson)
2. Youngs (George)
3. Marler (Vunipola)
4. Launchbury (Attwood)
5. Lawes (Slater)
6. Wood (Itoje)
7. Robshaw
8. Morgan (Vunipola)

9. Youngs (Wigglesworth)
10. Ford (Farrell)
11. Nowell (Yarde)
12. Barritt (Eastmond)
13. Joseph (Slade)
14. Watson
15. Brown (Goode)

Also to make the team LCD, Corbs, Cips.

 

[michaelbolton]

Right, time for the final 31 predictions/hopes-
My hopes:

Props - Cole, Mako, Marler, Corbs/Mullan (dependent on form improvement over summer), Brookes Id go for Wilson over a LH too for what its worth
Hookers - T Youngs, George, Cowan-Dickie
Locks - Launchbury, Lawes, Attwood, Itoje
Flankers - Kvesic, Robshaw, Wood
Number 8s - Morgan, Billy

Scrum-halves - B Youngs, Care (why Wigglesworth out of choice?!), Simpson (pretty sure he is injured)
Fly-halves - Ford, Farrell
Centres - Barritt, Joseph, Slade, Daly
Wingers - Nowell, May, Yarde
Fullbacks - Brown, Watson


what I predict he will actually pick:

Props - Cole, Mako, Marler, Wilson, Brookes
Hookers - T Youngs, Webber, Cowan-Dickie
Locks - Launchbury, Lawes, Parling
Flankers - Haskell (Burgess?), Robshaw, Wood
Number 8s - Morgan, Billy

Scrum-halves - B Youngs, Wigglesworth, Care
Fly-halves - Ford, Farrell
Centres - Barritt, Joseph, Burrell, 36
Wingers - Nowell, May, Watson
Fullbacks - Brown, Goode

Your second team has one less forward so I would go for Haskell and I hope Kvesic but think it might be Burgess

 

[yaboyjj]

Your second team has one less forward so I would go for Haskell and I hope Kvesic but think it might be Burgess

Yeah, just spotted that- ammended now
Not sure I can agree with any of the annotations though, Mullan is imo a bit of a plodder amd should not reckon in the final 31 (Wilson/Corbs is a close call though).
Simpson is only out short term and should come back into the reckoning- can't say I feel the love for Care.

 

[Canuck]

I'm not an England fan like some of you guys but I've watched all their intl games for the last 2 years and watched a fair deal of Aviva Premiership this season. This is how I feel the team will shake out in the end:

Prop: Joe Marler, Dan Cole, Alex Corbiserio, David Wilson, Mako Vunipola
Hooker: Tom Youngs, Jamie George, Luke Cowan-Dickie
Second Row: Courtney Laws, Joe Launchbury, George Kruis, Geoff Parling
Flanker: Chris Robshaw, James Haskell, Matt Kvesic
Number 8: Billy Vunipola, Ben Morgan

Scrum-Half: Ben Youngs, Richard Wigglesworth, Danny Care
Fly-Half: George Ford, Owen Farrell, Henry Slade
Centre: Luther Burrell, Jonathan Joseph, Elliot Daly, Billy Twelvetrees
Outside Back: Jack Nowell, Marland Yarde, Mike Brown, Anthony Watson

 

[goodNumber10]

I'm not an England fan like some of you guys but I've watched all their intl games for the last 2 years and watched a fair deal of Aviva Premiership this season. This is how I feel the team will shake out in the end:

Prop: Joe Marler, Dan Cole, Alex Corbiserio, David Wilson, Mako Vunipola
Hooker: Tom Youngs, Jamie George, Luke Cowan-Dickie
Second Row: Courtney Laws, Joe Launchbury, George Kruis, Geoff Parling
Flanker: Chris Robshaw, James Haskell, Matt Kvesic
Number 8: Billy Vunipola, Ben Morgan

Scrum-Half: Ben Youngs, Andew Wigglesworth, Danny Care
Fly-Half: George Ford, Owen Farrell, Henry Slade
Centre: Luther Burrell, Jonathan Joseph, Elliot Daly, Billy Twelvetrees
Outside Back: Jack Nowell, Marland Yarde, Mike Brown, Anthony Watson

Andrew Wigglesworth half brother of Michael Lawes

Looks good, i think i'd be surprised if Daly got the nod over Brad Barritt and LCD got the nod over Webber otherwise no major concerns with that squad.

 

[michaelbolton]

Yeah, just spotted that- amended now
Not sure I can agree with any of the annotations though, Mullan is imo a bit of a plodder and should not reckon in the final 31 (Wilson/Corbs is a close call though).
Simpson is only out short term and should come back into the reckoning- can't say I feel the love for Care.

Mullan this year has been so much better than Corbs anyone who says otherwise was not paying attention but agreed he is behind Marler and Mako so won't make it. On form Corbs would start every time but he isn't anywhere close. Wilson will get in as we need a TH to back up Cole, Brookes can genuinely play either side so will make the cut over Corbs. Thought Simpson was long term but if not then I would play him but don't think that will happen. I am not a huge fan of Care either but he is a mile better than Wigglesworth. Not sure we have a better option atm... I like Robson at Gloucester but he never gets played for some bizarre reason. If Kvesic doesn't make I will be p****d, we need a back up 7 for Robshaw and he is best we have by a long way

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Considering Flood was dropped the instant he announced he was heading to France, does that mean we can get rid of Strettle now?

 

[Patchey]

Considering Flood was dropped the instant he announced he was heading to France, does that mean we can get rid of Strettle now?

Normal rules don't apply for a World Cup though do they? If Lanny thinks Strettle and Ashton will seriously help us win (lol) then he won't be bothered that they're off, right?

 

[yaboyjj]

Mullan this year has been so much better than Corbs anyone who says otherwise was not paying attention but agreed he is behind Marler and Mako so won't make it. On form Corbs would start every time but he isn't anywhere close. Wilson will get in as we need a TH to back up Cole, Brookes can genuinely play either side so will make the cut over Corbs. Thought Simpson was long term but if not then I would play him but don't think that will happen. I am not a huge fan of Care either but he is a mile better than Wigglesworth. Not sure we have a better option atm... I like Robson at Gloucester but he never gets played for some bizarre reason. If Kvesic doesn't make I will be p****d, we need a back up 7 for Robshaw and he is best we have by a long way

Did you watch the game on Saturday? Wiggleworth bossed it- he is exactly who you want for knock out rugby- Care has been dire all season, having Youngs is worrying enough, having two bipolar scrummies would be too much to bear. Corbs has been finding his feet the last few games- I am gambling that the upward trajectory (2 months of training camp) can continue, he has a much higher ceiling than Mullan- I can only guess at the future squad though. I agree RE Kvesic though- thoroughly deserves a place at openside.

 

[goodNumber10]

Did you watch the game on Saturday? Wiggleworth bossed it- he is exactly who you want for knock out rugby- Care has been dire all season, having Youngs is worrying enough, having two bipolar scrummies would be too much to bear. Corbs has been finding his feet the last few games- I am gambling that the upward trajectory (2 months of training camp) can continue, he has a much higher ceiling than Mullan- I can only guess at the future squad though. I agree RE Kvesic though- thoroughly deserves a place at openside.

Wigglesworth is the best kicking/tactical 9 in England

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Wigglesworth is the best kicking/tactical 9 in England

Wiggs, Ford and Slade would certainly allow the kciking duties to be spread evenly. I like the darting threat that Simpson and Youngs on form can offer though, Youngs last 6N really was good at keeping defences guessing, although maybe a more controlling mentality was needed against Ireland.

 

[91jmay]

Watching Bar Bar's game again. I reckon Yarde did himself a lot of good, set up two tries for Wade with nice bits of skill at speed which is something he hasn't managed before. He also offers power which none of the other wingers do. Would hope he does well in warm up and finds a place.
Nowell, Yarde, Watson and Wade would be the blokes I picked, SL will take Ashton for sure though.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

I was really impressed with Yarde as well.
If he can keep that form up I'd have him in the 23 shirt (or, if Brown's out then on the wing).

 

[chippieolamus]

Anybody else think May is a good fit for the 23 shirt? Can cover 13 and 15 and has the pace to run past tired legs towards the back end of games. I would also take Yarde though, assuming Roko isn't added into the squad. Brown, Watson, May, Nowell, Yarde would be the ones I would bring.