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England Six Nations Squad 2025

Langdon maybe? Was in the a squad last week and I think Pollock has been in camp since round 2. Agreed anyway.
I remember Langdon being in camp before too, though, even after George came back


Edit: just scrolled back on twitter and we had a 36 man squad at the start of the last game week

Even bigger waste not bringing a young lock in!
 
I mean we've got a number of 12s now, and we had a bunch before that ended up going elsewhere due to lack of interest from England - I blame the England coaches as much as anyone tbh
I agree with the sentiment, but Redpath is the only one who I think would have made it with England and I'd argue we showed plenty of interest in him even before it was really warranted.

Tompkins is a committed and courageous player who I like, but he's no better than any of the options we have in or around the squad.

Johnny Williams had bags of potential but has never really made it. Largely due to cancer I'd say. He's another one who got a decent bit of interest though.
 
I remember Langdon being in camp before too, though, even after George came back


Edit: just scrolled back on twitter and we had a 36 man squad at the start of the last game week

Even bigger waste not bringing a young lock in!
I did think Lockett might get a call up after his performance in the A game.

I can only assume Coles has proved his fitness.
 
I did think Lockett might get a call up after his performance in the A game.

I can only assume Coles has proved his fitness.
Yeah they must have decided Coles can play 40 at least. Lockett did play well for the As.
 
I thought there might be a bit more of an immediate reward for some of better performers from the A game like Lockett and Kenningham. Perhaps it was more a case of booking seats for the summer tour?

Hard to know which way Farrell will go with Lions selection but on recent form, I would think lock and back row would be some of the areas most likely to see an English presence.
 
I thought there might be a bit more of an immediate reward for some of better performers from the A game like Lockett and Kenningham. Perhaps it was more a case of booking seats for the summer tour?

Hard to know which way Farrell will go with Lions selection but on recent form, I would think lock and back row would be some of the areas most likely to see an English presence.
Yeah I think the summer tour is going to be a big one for several positions. I expect a few of the young props to go. And centre will be a huge focus, alongside developing a few more locks.

Actually this could be a critical tour as we really need to develop at Scrum halve, and hooker aswell.
 
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Gonna be real silly with the centre partnership is Lawrence/Slade all summer because they want continuity/leadership in the backline
You forget that literally only Slade is capable of running the defensive system! He's the only one that can shoot up and around in the intricate hammer system.

Every other player is incapable of doing that
 
On commentary for the Scotland game Ben Kay said that England dont play the Blitz system anymore. I usually respect Kay's technical analysis but I don't think he is right on this occasion. They certainly haven't gone back to drift defence.
 
The thing is Ollie Lawrence has been fulfilling the role of a 12.

First phase defensively he's been set at 12, while Slade covers the outside arc in the 13 channel (traditionally seen as the most difficult defensive role in rugby). On split field it means you have two operators who are comfortable in the 13 channel while Lawrence has shown he can do all you'd want from a 12 offensively. Great running lines, gets the hands free for an offload and with sharp footwork/speed. His hands are decent enough for some subtle passing but definitely an area he can improve.

The one area a fan can't quantify is how much impact a player has in calling and leading a pattern of play. We've heard of Slade as the leader for England's defense but not so much about Lawrence, or if he helps out the out halves from time to time. That being said, with both Smith's on the pitch it may reduce the need for that in the centres slightly.

In short, I actually think England need a 13. Slade has been playing that role defensively but has made some poor reads this 6N on top of missing a veritable shitload of tackles. It's been a turnstile, and someone like Oscar Beard who had the pace to play back three and physicality to play in the centres is ideal for that role. Pace gets you out of a lot of troublesome situations and the way he plays makes him seem like a player who can disorganise a defense and help create some unstructured players for which Smith, Lawrence, Mitchell et al can make hay against.

The reason Slade is so good at calling a defense and decision making on the blitz/drift is experience. If you want to see other people try and step into that role of commanding the OC channel defensively, the summer tour is the perfect time to do so. I wouldn't make massive changes for that tour if possible as the structure of attack is still building but I do think that's an area where some work can really be done to improve the team as a whole
 
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On commentary for the Scotland game Ben Kay said that England dont play the Blitz system anymore. I usually respect Kay's technical analysis but I don't think he is right on this occasion. They certainly haven't gone back to drift defence.
They've kind of amalgamated them, but aren't quite getting the best of either. Up to the 12 channel they're blitzing, then often drifting if teams get any wider than that. As a result, the wings/OC aren't shutting down the outside channels while also presenting overlaps and weak shoulders to onrushing backs in the wider channels as Scotland/Ireland have shown so far
 
Apparently we're due to announce tomorrow, so I'll only be just a little bit cross. Two Tuesdays, a Wednesday and a Thursday just kind of sums up the haphazard nature of the current team.

Italy is a no win for England. Beat them comfortably and it's "so what, look what France did to them away". Make a bit of a meal of things and it's "look what France did last time out". Italy have scored some nice tries, but in terms of overall performance weren't hugely convincing in either of their other games and we ought to have the firepower to do a fair bit of damage up front. At home, off the back of 2 wins, we really ought to be looking for something quite convincing, even if Italy will be hell bent on consigning the French performance to history.
 
You forget that literally only Slade is capable of running the defensive system! He's the only one that can shoot up and around in the intricate hammer system.

Every other player is incapable of doing that
Is that because defence is often optional at prem level?

But we have to develop players. Lawrence could be a very outside bet for a lions spot. If not however and Slade and Lawrence are the centres for the summer then he will genuinely lose the support of the few he has left.
 
It was implied, with the get out clause mentioned before, but Junior Kpoku confirming he wants to move back to England at the end of next season:
 
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In short, I actually think England need a 13. Slade has been playing that role defensively but has made some poor reads this 6N on top of missing a veritable shitload of tackles. It's been a turnstile, and someone like Oscar Beard who had the pace to play back three and physicality to play in the centres is ideal for that role.
I think Beard will be getting plenty of game time in the summer. Definitely looks one to invest time in
 
It was implied, with the get out clause mentioned before, but Junior Kpoku confirming he wants to move back to England at the end of next season:
Without doing the stat checks if we're basing it on the u20 games id say Sodike and Burrows have impressed more.

But the number of U20 locks woth huge promise who have failed to make the step up for a variety of reasons is infuriating.
 
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Without doing the stat checks if we're basing it on the u20 games is saying Sodike and Burrows have impressed more.

But the number of U20 locks woth huge promise who have failed to make the step up for a variety of reasons is infuriating.

For a whole variety of reasons there is always going to be a huge attrition rate for kids at that age and you have no idea how they're going to go until you see them pitched against their seniors rather than their peers. But there are a few big lads coming through who give cautious grounds for optimism.
 

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