England Six Nations Squad 2025

[Saintjay]

Not sure the hype is a great as others are making out. He's 22 has 10 caps with two test starts and won two games. His tackle stats were mad 2nd only to Ben Earl. Not much else he can do.

Seems like if he had long hair, 42 caps and a hitch kick people would see him very differently.

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

Not sure the hype is a great as others are making out. He's 22 has 10 caps with two test starts and won two games. His tackle stats were mad 2nd only to Ben Earl. Not much else he can do.

Seems like if he had long hair, 42 caps and a hitch kick people would see him very differently.

I appreciate that second bit is a joke, but it's kind of the point - Marcus has been England's best player for almost all of the 18 months leading up to this Six Nations.

We lost a load of games really tightly, but we were often in them based on Marcus's individual brilliance. People tried to blame him for the rest of the backline being turgid, but yesterday's game and attacking tendancies proved it is just gameplan.

There is a strong argument for starting Fin, and his defence in particular was superb, but people (not hugely on here, but on social media more widely) have suddenly turned on Marcus for seemingly no reason.

 

[Saintjay]

I appreciate that second bit is a joke, but it's kind of the point - Marcus has been England's best player for almost all of the 18 months leading up to this Six Nations.

We lost a load of games really tightly, but we were often in them based on Marcus's individual brilliance. People tried to blame him for the rest of the backline being turgid, but yesterday's game and attacking tendancies proved it is just gameplan.

There is a strong argument for starting Fin, and his defence in particular was superb, but people (not hugely on here, but on social media more widely) have suddenly turned on Marcus for seemingly no reason.

Honestly i like both. Do i have a slight bias towards the Saintsman most definitely

Just wish England had the right game plan that suited both when currently they don't

It's hard to soar like an eagle surrounded by turkeys. The turkeys being the tactics.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Is there a right plan suited to both though?
M.Smith isn't Mckenzie, and would also mean M.Smith would have to play 15 for Quins which makes little sense.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Is there a right plan suited to both though?
M.Smith isn't Mckenzie, and would also mean M.Smith would have to play 15 for Quins which makes little sense.

I think Marcus Smith coming on at 50-60 mins against tired legs would work well. I also don't understand all the sudden Marcus hate, the problems hi way beyond him and he's one of the few who actually tries something.

I think there is a place for both of them and both have real talent. What's missing is any semblance of good coaching.

 

[Geordie]

Well if Furbank isnt coming back this 6n, then it'll be Marcus at 15 for the final 2 games. Unless they opt for Steward which im not sure will happen.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

I think Marcus Smith coming on at 50-60 mins against tired legs would work well. I also don't understand all the sudden Marcus hate, the problems hi way beyond him and he's one of the few who actually tries something.

I think there is a place for both of them and both have real talent. What's missing is any semblance of good coaching.

Yeah I do agree with that

 

[Rugbyfan564]

 

[TW27BA]

It wasn't that long ago we had a 10 (Farrell) playing at 12 to accommodate Marcus in the side.
Now Fin Smith has the 10 shirt and we are looking where to play Marcus. We have a bosher at 13 in Lawrence so.........
Just sayin'

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

It wasn't that long ago we had a 10 (Farrell) playing at 12 to accommodate Marcus in the side.
Now Fin Smith has the 10 shirt and we are looking where to play Marcus. We have a bosher at 13 in Lawrence so.........
Just sayin'

I wouldn't really say Lawrence is a bosher. He can make ground but it's more an additional thing rather than his main selling point.

 

[Lé Ddanno]

I wouldn't really say Lawrence is a bosher. He can make ground but it's more an additional thing rather than his main selling point.

Makes ground and immediately knocks on

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

Big thing for the next game if we don't mess with selection will be tactics. Having kicked away 69% (from memory) of possession it does question what tactics we were employing?

Did SB want more territory, did the players not listen?

We went through a large part of the game with one out runners (again) running into contact twice and the box kicking. That's not going to win any game of rugby.

Will SB learn again? Or has his tactics changed again from the summer? What does he want from this team and when will we get to see some proper phase play that their backs are very capable of.