England Six Nations Squad 2025

[Geordie]

Wonder if Clark might be added next week?
Only two locks in there by my reckoning

Clark injured and rehabbing with Gloucester apparently.

 

[Geordie]

TY - must have missed that

Apparently Underhill did his ankle again. Coetzee got a concussion. Pepper and Muir both pulled hamtrings. Nightmare!

 

[Which Tyler]

Apparently Underhill did his ankle again. Coetzee got a concussion. Pepper and Muir both pulled hamtrings. Nightmare!

Yep, knew about the other three. I'd thought Guy just had cramp

 

[Rugbyfan564]

Junior Kpoku, the highly-rated Racing 92 second-row who qualifies for England and France, trained with Steve Borthwick's squad ahead of last weekend's thrilling victory over Les Bleus, marking a major step forward in securing the young lock's services. (Daily Telegraph)

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

I mean doesn't mean much until he signs for a English club, He has a 3 months ban and was with the U20's so it's nothing new

 

[Which Tyler]

I mean doesn't mean much until he signs for a English club, He has a 3 months ban and was with the U20's so it's nothing new

Are you sure you don't mean 3 weeks?

Question - can he be called up for England A (obviously, not whilst banned, but as a matter of course, is EngA subject to the same limitations as the senior team?)

 

[Geordie]

Sidoke has impressed me more in the u20s, but he isnt playing much for Saracens yet. McCall will manage him well

The fact that Tizard is a starting lock for the As and Carpenter is reserve shows the gap we have at lock after Martin, Chessum and Itoje (and Coles).

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Are you sure you don't mean 3 weeks?

Question - can he be called up for England A (obviously, not whilst banned, but as a matter of course, is EngA subject to the same limitations as the senior team?)

I just remember 3 tbh

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Sidoke has impressed me more in the u20s, but he isnt playing much for Saracens yet. McCall will manage him well

The fact that Tizard is a starting lock for the As and Carpenter is reserve shows the gap we have at lock after Martin, Chessum and Itoje (and Coles).

Tbh it's a weird position because Martin and Chessum age profile would tend to mean they would be in the A team (23 and 24)
Just happens they are very very very good already.

Honestly biggest lost to English rugby was Kruis crazy he is only 34 Whitelock is the same age. If we had managed to convince him to keep playing after 2019 I feel a lot would've been different.
Losing that rugby IQ and experience left a giant hole

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Tbh it's a weird position because Martin and Chessum age profile would tend to mean they would be in the A team (23 and 24)
Just happens they are very very very good already.

Honestly biggest lost to English rugby was Kruis crazy he is only 34 Whitelock is the same age. If we had managed to convince him to keep playing after 2019 I feel a lot would've been different.
Losing that rugby IQ and experience left a giant hole

Itoje was the one who got all the praise but Kruis was the one who did the real grunt work. It's no coincidence Itoje became less effective after Kruis departed. The other big miss was Attwood, that guy should have had far more England appearances.

 

[Geordie]

Tbh it's a weird position because Martin and Chessum age profile would tend to mean they would be in the A team (23 and 24)
Just happens they are very very very good already.

Honestly biggest lost to English rugby was Kruis crazy he is only 34 Whitelock is the same age. If we had managed to convince him to keep playing after 2019 I feel a lot would've been different.
Losing that rugby IQ and experience left a giant hole

Agree, Kruis was top class. but i also think we didnt get the best out of the likes of Attwood. He was the type of powerful lock we were crying out for but just never materialized.

Currently we have the 3/4 then a big drop off.
Several U20 hopes havent come through as hoped such as Alfie Bell, Chessum Jr (due to injury etc..) so its a bit barren. Im not getting much from Tizzard

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Yeah Tizard turned into a bit of a....flop feels harsh, but he definitely hasn't delivered on the promise he showed early doors
Decent club player but looked to have a much higher ceiling - only 24 though, I suppose. Theoretically still a world cup cycle away from his prime years

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

I know he's no longer in the equation but mad to think that Launchbury's still only 33. Only had 13 minutes in an Eng shirt since the Mickey Mouse Autumn Nations of 2020.

Think we sometimes forget how influential he was. 70 caps is 70 more than I've got, but you can't help feeling we probably missed out on some real peak years.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

I know he's no longer in the equation but mad to think that Launchbury's still only 33. Only had 13 minutes in an Eng shirt since the Mickey Mouse Autumn Nations of 2020.

Think we sometimes forget how influential he was. 70 caps is 70 more than I've got, but you can't help feeling we probably missed out on some real peak years.

The years of having Lunchbury, Kruis and Attwood as our heavy locks and Itoje and Lawes as our athletic ones really fizzled out pretty fast. We should have been set lock wise for the best part of a decade.

 

[Which Tyler]

https://archive.ph/6jBou

 

[Geordie]

Yeah Tizard turned into a bit of a....flop feels harsh, but he definitely hasn't delivered on the promise he showed early doors
Decent club player but looked to have a much higher ceiling - only 24 though, I suppose. Theoretically still a world cup cycle away from his prime years

Theres always big Ben at Sale

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

Fraser Dingwall is another worth mentioning - given that he was skipper last time out.

Think with him it's got to be a case where since he's involved in senior squads all the time and already has 2 A Squad appearances then they see more value in bringing in a fresh face rather than more of the same. Can't imagine any of the current A Squad centres have actually leapfrogged him.

 

[Groundhog]

Mark van Gisbergen nudes

 

[Which Tyler]

Mark van Gisbergen nudes

Erm...
You might want to keep that thought process to yourself