England EPS 2017/18 edition.

[Ragey Erasmus]

So we can look forward to the new coaching style of Jones-is-all. Lessons learned from Lancaster, you can't have your assistants dominating you if you have no assistants.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Why is England rugby such a mess?

Most resources, most money, absolute car crash.

Too many cooks.
Club game is alot stronger than other unions.

No other country would have tried to pinch a national coach before the RWC now.
That being said our defence wasn't that impressive in the 6N's, maybe Gustard thought Eddie might be looking elsewhere anyway now?


Media will spin it against Eddie regardless though, they are desperate to after he left out the chosen ones. (Don't seem to realise that prem rugby doesn't necessarily mean International standard and that some players work because of their clubs systems).

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

good news is smith and B.Curry are in the U20 squad!!!!

England U20s squad for 2018 World Rugby U20 Championship:
Forwards
Josh Basham (London Irish)
Ben Curry (Sale Sharks)
Beck Cutting (Worcester Warriors)
Joe Heyes (Leicester Tigers)
Ted Hill (Worcester Warriors)
Aaron Hinkley (Gloucester Rugby)
Ciaran Knight (Gloucester Rugby)
Joel Kpoku (Saracens)
Sam Lewis (Leicester Tigers)
Gabriel Oghre (Wasps)
Ehren Painter (Northampton Saints)
James Scott (Worcester Warriors)
Alex Seville (Gloucester Rugby)
Toby Trinder (Northampton Saints)
Henry Walker (Gloucester Rugby)
Tom Willis (Wasps)
Backs
Rory Brand (London Irish)
Will Butler (Worcester Warriors)
Ali Crossdale (Saracens)
Fraser Dingwall (Northampton Saints)
James Grayson (Northampton Saints)
Tom Hardwick (Leicester Tigers)
Gabriel Ibitoye (Harlequins)
Ben Loader (London Irish)
Jordan Olowofela (Leicester Tigers)
Tom Parton (London Irish)
Marcus Smith (Harlequins)
Ben White (Leicester Tigers)
Unavailable through injury:
Dino Lamb (Harlequins)
Sam Moore (Sale Sharks)
Marcus Street (Exeter Chiefs)

Squad stats

Tigers: 5
Irish: 4
Saints: 4
Worcester: 4
Gloucester: 3
Harlequins: 2
Saracens: 2
Wasps: 2
Sale: 1
Bath: 0
Exeter: 0
Newcastle: 0

 

[curtbob7]

Now that is good news.

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

No Ollie Lawrence?

 

[ratsapprentice]

Why is England rugby such a mess?

Most resources, most money, absolute car crash.

Independent clubs.

I mean... it's not rocket surgery.

 

[ratsapprentice]

No Ollie Lawrence?

Might be going with the Seniors?

He's still u18, and also in the Babaas squad.

 

[curtbob7]

Independent clubs.

I mean... it's not rocket surgery.

How it should be.

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

"Owen, now I've made you captain, could you give me your Dad's number?"

Edwards was also in the frame for Quins, so maybe he could be available?

 

[ratsapprentice]

How it should be.

If you like... it's one of the fundamental reasons why English rugby is ******* though.

*Relative to where it "should" be....

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

Jack Willis with a bad injury

 

[TRF_Olyy]

35 man squad for barbarians announced
Cipriani named as an outside back
Hughes in there despite being absolutely ******* woeful for wasps on the weekend

Backs

Full backs
Mike Brown (Harlequins)
Danny Cipriani (Wasps)
Joe Cokanasiga (London Irish)
Elliot Daly (Wasps) **Wednesday
Jonny May (Leicester Tigers)
Denny Solomona (Sale Sharks)
Jason Woodward (Gloucester Rugby)*

Inside backs
George Ford (Leicester Tigers)
Piers Francis (Northampton Saints)
Ollie Lawrence (Worcester Warriors) *
Cameron Redpath (Sale Sharks) *
Dan Robson (Wasps) *
Marcus Smith (Harlequins)*
Ben Te'o (Worcester Warriors)
Henry Trinder (Gloucester Rugby)*
Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)

Forwards

Back five
Josh Beaumont (Sale Sharks) *
Tom Curry (Sale Sharks)
Tom Ellis (Bath Rugby) *
Teimana Harrison (Northampton Saints)
Nathan Hughes (Wasps) ** Tuesday
Joe Launchbury (Wasps) ** Thursday
Zach Mercer (Bath Rugby) *
Josh McNally (London Irish)*
Chris Robshaw (Harlequins)
Jono Ross (Sale Sharks)*
Elliott Stooke (Bath Rugby) *
Mark Wilson (Newcastle)

Front row
Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers)
Paul Hill (Northampton Saints)
Joe Marler (Harlequins)
George McGuigan (Leicester Tigers)*
Nick Schonert (Worcester Warriors) *
Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins)
Jack Singleton (Worcester Warriors) *

* Uncapped players
** Arrival into camp

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

So my 23 since that baabaas team is actually pretty damn good looking.
1. Genge, 2. Singleton, 3. Sinckler
4. Launchbury, 5. Stooke
6. Ross, 7. Curry, 8. Mercer
9. Youngs, 10. Ford
12. redpath 13. Te'o
11. May, 14. Daly, 15. Woodward

16. McGugian, 17. Marler, 18. Schonert
19. Ellis, 20. Wilson
21. Robson, 22. Cipriani, 23. Cokasigna

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

1.Genge 2.McGuigan 3. Sincks
4.Launch 5.Beaumont
6. Ross 8. Hughes 7.Harrison

9. Youngs
10. Cipriani
12. Francis
13. Trinder
11. Cokanasiga 14.Daly
15.Woodward

16. Singleton
17. Marler
18. Schonert
19. Ellis
20. Mercer
21. Robson
22. Smith
23. Brown


Good mix of experience, youngsters and players fighting to regain a place/prove fitness (ie.Hughes).

 

[Nudger]

I don't get cips at full back

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

I don't get cips at full back

It could be like when he said Nowell was gonna be a 13 in the 6N though...

 

[Reiser99]

So my 23 since that baabaas team is actually pretty damn good looking.
1. Genge, 2. Singleton, 3. Sinckler
4. Launchbury, 5. Stooke
6. Ross, 7. Curry, 8. Mercer
9. Youngs, 10. Ford
12. redpath 13. Te'o
11. May, 14. Daly, 15. Woodward

16. McGugian, 17. Marler, 18. Schonert
19. Ellis, 20. Wilson
21. Robson, 22. Cipriani, 23. Cokasigna

I can get behind that, though I'd prefer Robson and Cips to be starting as we know what Youngs and Ford can do. Youngs and Ford will get plenty of time in SA when experience is needed. Against the BaaBaa's I'd say give those two a shot. Likewise maybe play Cokasigna from the start. However overall I'd be happy with that.

 

[curtbob7]

Amazes me just how regularly people spell Cokanasiga's name completely wrong!

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

Amazes me just how regularly people spell Cokanasiga's name completely wrong!

It is pretty difficult tbh... Even the prem commentators said it a variety of different ways this year, I head: Cokanasiga, Cokasanga, Conasakiga, Cokiasanga and many more...

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

I mean it should be Josateki Cokanasiga.