England 2021/22

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Anyone else saying it and I would agree with them dammit.

Honestly it's hard to know which England team will turn up, but the annoying thing about this current england team is it doesn't feel that far away from becoming contenders IMO.

 

[higgik]

Not really sure how you came to that conclusion, multiple times Ford has mixed it up. Consistently the biggest thing that has prevented Ford from playing more heads up rugby is Jones ridiculous rigid gameplan and having Farrell outside him at 12, who would often butcher an overlap if Ford passed him the ball to pass it on. When Ford had Youngs at 9 and Farrell at 12, it massively hindered his ability to play on the fly as all the time was taken away from him and any options that would require going through Farrell would often not be executed once the ball got to Farrell.

Watch him for Sarries and he seems to trust the players around him. Ford always seems to panic ubder pressure

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Premiership clubs face losing England players for half of games next season

Premiership clubs face losing England players for half of their league matches next season due to mandatory rest periods and clashes with international fixtures in a truncated campaign before the World Cup

www.theguardian.com

Well RIP Bath

 

[BPM]

Watch him for Sarries and he seems to trust the players around him. Ford always seems to panic ubder pressure

I think you're pretty much alone on this one.

 

[Which Tyler]

I think you're pretty much alone on this one.

I'm still assuming parody

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Maro Itoje will no longer sing England anthem Swing Low, Sweet Chariot

England’s Maro Itoje has revealed that he will no longer sing ‘Swing Low, Sweet Chariot’ because of the song’s origins in American slavery

www.theguardian.com

 

[BPM]

I'm still assuming parody

I'm assuming a massive Saracens bias that flies in the face of any actual evidence.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Maro Itoje will no longer sing England anthem Swing Low, Sweet Chariot

England’s Maro Itoje has revealed that he will no longer sing ‘Swing Low, Sweet Chariot’ because of the song’s origins in American slavery

www.theguardian.com

let's be real most people who sing it now, just do it so they can do the hand gestures

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

let's be real most people who sing it now, just do it so they can do the hand gestures

There are hand gestures?

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Yeh the coming forth to carry me home has gestures

 

[Bada-Bing!]

i didn't know they had hand gestures either.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Only found out when I went to an England game also

 

[Geordie]

Regardless of the racial discussions...its just an awful song.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Can't we make a set out suitably offensive or silly songs to replace it tailored to each of the other nations?

SA - Never met a nice south african
NZ - Safety dance (when doing the haka)
Aus - Breaking the law
Wales - Baa baa black sheep
Ireland - The potatoes song mix from LOTR
Scotland - The drunk Scotsman
France - Bonjour monsieur

Sorted, now everyone can be suitably offended.

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

Regardless of the racial discussions...its just an awful song.

Na I love it to be honest. Great song.

Actions are questionable tho

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Sounds like Sinckler is injured (post on Instagram about how his season has ended now)

Stuart starting this summer is not a pretty prospect, but will be good to see Heyes get some time (presumably 60-90seconds off the bench) and see who EJ sees as his next in line

 

[BPM]

Yeah. I just saw that too.

He might only be referring to being unavailable for Bristol's last fixture, but I suspect it will be Stuart and Heyes in the 3/18 shirts in Australia.

 

[EdBirch]

Bring back Cole

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Bring back Cole

This but unironically

 

[BPM]

While I wouldn't laugh off a recall for Cole, I also don't think it's the right thing to do, purely because it's a step backwards.

If Stuart is genuinely second choice, this could be the opportunity he needs to show he's there on merit rather than by default. I think he is a good player, but he needs to start showing it.

I like Heyes so no issue with him getting more game time but I'd also take a serious look at Will Collier. He's not flashy but he's an excellent scrummaging prop who'll work hard.

Beyond that, it's really slim pickings. Street and Harper were the main hopes, but through a combination of injury and competition (in Street's case), neither has really started to fulfil their potential. A good run of games next season could easily change that though.

I don't rate Williams, Hill, Painter or any of the other options TBH.