[COVID-19] General Discussion

[Sour Patch Kid]

I'll bite. Yes, you can't know 100% the exact numbers. However, by that logic almost every set of statistics is flawed. These statistics work because even if they are not 100%, they still give an accurate picture of the situation. Simple fact is that we need the data and we ignore the tiny margin of error because statistically it is irrelevant.

I think we both see this issue from opposite ends, but I appreciate the discourse and the open-mindedness to debate.

 

[Sour Patch Kid]

Do you have degree and done the actual statistical research in this?

No? Okay shut up the experts who know what they are talking about are speaking.

Well, when it comes to "experts" and COVID in particular I think we should all be a little more skeptical and question the experts. Dr Faucci, the "expert" with all the degrees and ***les admitted that the mask advice and the six feet social distancing was completely made up from nothing. There was no science involved, no level of education or training went into that advice.

Experts used to say that the earth was flat.

 

[Amiga500]

From the article "In the first nine months, the shots prevented more than 23m infections and 123,000 deaths in the UK" And they know this how? You can never know how many of anything you have prevented. How many concussions have been reduced by changes in head contact rules in rugby? How many crimes are prevented by police? There is no way to be sure. All these are is guesstimations and don't forget that many studies are funded by the same people with a vested interest in the outcome being a certain way.

Just to point out; your quoting the words of a lawyer, not a scientist.

So yes, you are correct to point out they've used conclusive words to describe a projected figure.

That does not invalidate the projected figure, it just provides a better context for the certainty attached to the figure.

(BTW - the projections are usually fairly good - the underlying research papers that would have established those numbers should have uncertainty figures in them)

 

[Amiga500]

But the question is, Did it really work?

Or is the bigger and more cynical takeaway that politicians pushed questionable science (social distancing/masks/washing your groceries)

If you look at the death rate in Italy early on, it was really scary.

The politicians here waited far too long before intervening to slow down transmission vectors here.
The fact they eventually did is what made the difference between the UK systems buckling versus completely breaking - as was arguably the case in Italy during the early weeks of it.

 

[Which Tyler]

Yeah, but Cheltenham races is a very important social event for the Tory donor class.
Besides, Boris couldn't have acted any sooner, he was busy celebrating Brexit and avoid Cobra

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

It's always interesting how the people who say "Sorry if I offended you" always come from the biggest snowflake