[COVID-19] General Discussion

[The Seeker]

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Wales NHS Covid pass compulsory for large events and nightclubs

Wales' rugby game against New Zealand will be one of the first mass events where passes are required.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Covid: UK's early response worst public health failure ever, MPs say

But the new report by MPs fails to reflect the views of bereaved relatives, campaigners say.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[ncurd]

Covid: UK's early response worst public health failure ever, MPs say

But the new report by MPs fails to reflect the views of bereaved relatives, campaigners say.

www.bbc.co.uk

Polls will drop for a day or two then bounce back...

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Also interesting the committee spread the blame to the scientists on SAGE. Greg Clark and Hunt being Tory MPs have to protect Bojo and Co.

 

[Which Tyler]

Also interesting the committee spread the blame to the scientists on SAGE. Greg Clark and Hunt being Tory MPs have to protect Bojo and Co.

Yeah, it's SAGE's fault that Boris was on holiday / writing a book and couldn't be arse to turn up to COBRA meetings...

 

[ncurd]

Yeah, it's SAGE's fault that Boris was on holiday / writing a book and couldn't be arse to turn up to COBRA meetings...

It's okay he's in holiday now as well.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Covid: Lateral flow tests more accurate than first thought, study finds

Positive results from the widely-used rapid Covid tests should be trusted, say UCL researchers.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[The Seeker]

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Covid PCR tests: at least 43,000 in UK may have had false negatives

Health Security Agency suspends operations at privately run lab in Wolverhampton

www.theguardian.com

 

[Which Tyler]

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

Wtf even is this

 

[The Seeker]

FDA Panel Endorses Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 Vaccine Booster Shot

A COVID-19 booster shot may be on the horizon for people who already got the two-dose Moderna shot or single-dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine; KDKA's Amy Wadas reports.

news.yahoo.com

 

[Bada-Bing!]

UK Covid cases near 50,000 in one day as No 10 warns of ‘challenging’ winter

Reported number of cases rise steadily in October to reach highest level since 17 July

www.theguardian.com

UKHSA data dashboard

Overall summary of the respiratory viruses in circulation within the UK

coronavirus.data.gov.uk

Nearing 50,000 cases per day, daily deaths have been over 100 since August; hospitalisations going towards the 1000 mark per day; vaccinations flattening and we haven't hit November yet. Compare our figures to France, Germany, Spain, Portugal, Italy. Why are we putting up with this?

 

[McTallshort]

UK Covid cases near 50,000 in one day as No 10 warns of ‘challenging’ winter

Reported number of cases rise steadily in October to reach highest level since 17 July

www.theguardian.com

UKHSA data dashboard

Overall summary of the respiratory viruses in circulation within the UK

coronavirus.data.gov.uk

Nearing 50,000 cases per day, daily deaths have been over 100 since August; hospitalisations going towards the 1000 mark per day; vaccinations flattening and we haven't hit November yet. Compare our figures to France, Germany, Spain, Portugal, Italy. Why are we putting up with this?

It's going through the schools at the minute, 2 out of my 3 have had it. The eldest 16 was quite ill as he hadn't had his jab yet, my 9 year old had a very slight cough but otherwise no worse than a bit of a cold. Still cannot get my head around not wearing masks and no social distancing

 

[Bada-Bing!]

They dragged their feet vaccinating 12-18 year olds and should have done it during the summer holidays before returning. Other European countries have.

It's what level of deaths and hospitalisations we are willing to accept as 100+ deaths and 1000 daily hospitalisations seems to be acceptable norm atm, when it can be reduced much further with those simple measures which aren't that much of a sacrifice IMO.

Been to several shops and would say majority of customers and staff are not wearing masks. If it's not mandated people aren't bothering and that becomes the norm.

That and mandating vaccination. 68% of population double jabbed; seems to be crawling Atm .

My parents are still waiting for their booster jabs, as am I. Not quite been more than 6 months since my second jab.

And we have winter and flu season to add this as well.

 

[ncurd]

It's what level of deaths and hospitalisations we are willing to accept as 100+ deaths and 1000 daily hospitalisations seems to be acceptable norm atm, when it can be reduced much further with those simple measures which aren't that much of a sacrifice IMO.

I'm not saying its flu and I'm not saying we can't do more.

But its conversation that's not really happening. What is the actual acceptable risk level? In peak flu season we see similar numbers in terms of deaths per week. We mitigate that with vaccines but it is considered an acceptable level pre pandemic.

COVID is higher risk of hospitalisation and all year round. Other countries are combating it better.

Influenza deaths in 2018, 2019 and 2020 - Office for National Statistics

www.ons.gov.uk

All I'm saying the government have seamed to have settled current level are fine without really educating the population to why they are fine. This make me very dubious of their reasons.

 

[McTallshort]

They dragged their feet vaccinating 12-18 year olds and should have done it during the summer holidays before returning. Other European countries have.

It's what level of deaths and hospitalisations we are willing to accept as 100+ deaths and 1000 daily hospitalisations seems to be acceptable norm atm, when it can be reduced much further with those simple measures which aren't that much of a sacrifice IMO.

Been to several shops and would say majority of customers and staff are not wearing masks. If it's not mandated people aren't bothering and that becomes the norm.

That and mandating vaccination. 68% of population double jabbed; seems to be crawling Atm .

My parents are still waiting for their booster jabs, as am I. Not quite been more than 6 months since my second jab.

And we have winter and flu season to add this as well.

Got my flu jab next week. Not taking any chances this year

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Covid-19: New mutation of Delta variant under close watch in UK

Scientists are studying it to better understand how much of a threat it may pose.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Reiser99]

I'm not saying its flu and I'm not saying we can't do more.

But its conversation that's not really happening. What is the actual acceptable risk level? In peak flu season we see similar numbers in terms of deaths per week. We mitigate that with vaccines but it is considered an acceptable level pre pandemic.

COVID is higher risk of hospitalisation and all year round. Other countries are combating it better.

Influenza deaths in 2018, 2019 and 2020 - Office for National Statistics

www.ons.gov.uk

All I'm saying the government have seamed to have settled current level are fine without really educating the population to why they are fine. This make me very dubious of their reasons.

One issue is that you can't compare deaths until circumstances are similar. There is no point looking at flu deaths before the pandemic, because then the disease was pretty much allowed to go as it pleased barring people who had flu vaccinations. Covid deaths are occurring under circumstances that have never occurred when accurately measuring the impact of virus, No virus has ever been met with such a widespread, global response. Yes the conversation needs to happen, but comparing it to the flu now is pointless because it's not being treated like the flu.