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Just saw this on BBC website, wanted to know if anyone disagreed? I would probably put Jamie Roberts in over Ma'a Nonu, he put in so much relentless work I think he deserves it. Maybe Dusautoir as well? Seeing as he is the best player of the year.

Also there's only 3 teams represented!

15. Israel Dagg (NZ)
14. George North (WAL)
13. Conrad Smith (NZ)
12. Ma'a Nonu (NZ)
11. Cory Jane (NZ)
10. Dan Carter (NZ)
9. Mike Phillips (WAL)
8. Imanol Harinordoquy (FRA)
7. Richie McCaw (NZ)
6. Jerome Kaino (NZ)
5. Brad Thorn (NZ)
4. Luke Charteris (WAL)
3. Nicolas Mas (FRA)
2. Kevin Mealamu (NZ)
1. Tony Woodcock (NZ)


http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bendirs/2011/10/world_cup_team_of_the_tourname.html
 
Seeing as most people say they were the two best teams at the tournament you can understand why.
 
1. Jane du Toit
2. Egbertus O'Callaghan
3. Johannes Redelinghuys
4. Hendrik Franken
5. Uakazuwaka Kazomiaze
6. Renaud van Neel
7. Rohan Kitshoff
8. Pieter-Jan van Lill
9. Ryan de la Harpe
10. Tertius Losper
11. Llelwellyn Winlker
12. Darryl de la Harpe
13. David Philander
14. McGrath van Wyk
15. Danie Dames
 
In my very biased one eyed opinion:p
15. Israel Dagg
14. James O'Connor
13. Jaque Fourie
12. Jamie Roberts
11. Richard Kahui
10. Rhys Priestland
9. Kahn Fotuali'i
8. Toby Faletau
7. Sam Warbuton
6. Thierry Dusautoir
5. Luke Charteris
4. Brad Thorn
3. Juan Figallo
2. Marius Tincu
1. Tony Woodcock

16. Keven Mealamu
17. Martin Castrogiovanni
18. Victor Matfield
19. Mamuka Gorgodze
20. Mike Phillips
21. Dan Carter(Didn't see enough of him to put him at first choice)
22. Ma'a Nonu
 
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ITV's team of the tournament

15. Israel Dagg (NZ)
14. Vincent Clerc (FRA)
13. Jamie Roberts (WAL)
12. Ma'a Nonu (NZ)
11. James O'Connor (AUS)
10. Rhys Priestland (WAL)
9. Mike Phillips (WAL)
8. Imanol Harinordoquy (FRA)
7. Sam Warburton (WAL)
6. Jerome Kaino (NZ)
5. Lionel Nallet (FRA)
4. Brad Thorn (NZ)
3. Adam Jones (WAL)
2. Kevin Mealamu (NZ)
1. Jean-Baptiste Poux (FRA)
 
Nicolas Mas. He completely destroyed any prop who was facing him.
 
Warbuton was emphatic yes..but his major brainfart cost his team a place in the WC final.
 
Just saw this on BBC website, wanted to know if anyone disagreed? I would probably put Jamie Roberts in over Ma'a Nonu, he put in so much relentless work I think he deserves it. Maybe Dusautoir as well? Seeing as he is the best player of the year.

Also there's only 3 teams represented!

15. Israel Dagg (NZ)
14. George North (WAL)
13. Conrad Smith (NZ)
12. Ma'a Nonu (NZ)
11. Cory Jane (NZ)
10. Dan Carter (NZ)
9. Mike Phillips (WAL)
8. Imanol Harinordoquy (FRA)
7. Richie McCaw (NZ)
6. Jerome Kaino (NZ)
5. Brad Thorn (NZ)
4. Luke Charteris (WAL)
3. Nicolas Mas (FRA)
2. Kevin Mealamu (NZ)
1. Tony Woodcock (NZ)


http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bendirs/2011/10/world_cup_team_of_the_tourname.html

I'd have Fotualii, Genia or Yachvilli instead of Phillips. Have Vincent Clerc over North too.
 
Wales lost 3 games in the tournament, how were they one of the best 2 sides? lol.

Even in his limited playing time, Bismark should be number 2, and I really think Schalk Burger should replace Kaino.

I like this list:

15 Israel Dagg (NZ)
There was the distraction at the tournament of veteran Mils Muliaina being awarded his 100th​ cap against Argentina in the quarters, but then it was Dagg all the way again: the young sorcerer was one of the standout new stars of this World Cup. He is considered to have all the skills required of a top-tier fullback ... and proved it, over and over again.
Next best: Pat Lambie (SA)
14 Cory Jane (NZ)
He's a free spirit and not exactly averse to a mid-tourney dram or two, either! But the Hurricanes flyer also tended to be on best behaviour come RWC match-days, which must have served as redemption in the eyes of hard taskmaster Graham Henry. Seemed to do everything at exhilarating pace and with commendable purpose.
Next best: George North (Wal)
13 Adam Ashley-Cooper (Aus)
We had some problems getting to our choice here: outside centre was one of the positions perhaps not blessed with an abundance of obvious riches at RWC 2011. In the end the Wallabies' "Mr Dependable" – always a forceful runner -- cracked the nod, shading the likes of Brian O'Driscoll and Conrad Smith.
Next best: Brian O'Driscoll (Ire)
12 Jamie Roberts (Wal)
While it is true that his great physical attributes can make him seem a little one-dimensional at times, Roberts did produce some immense performances in the Land of the Long White Cloud – with none eclipsing the way he tore into the Irish like a man possessed in the quarter-final!
Next best: Ma'a Nonu (NZ)
11 Richard Kahui (NZ)
Fittingly, though unintentionally for purposes of this exercise, the versatile Kahui completes an all-New Zealand back three in this team – his positional play and soundness when tested by the high bomb or chip-through was almost always out of the top drawer.
Next best: Shane Williams (Wal)
10 Dan Carter (NZ)
The tremor that went through New Zealand when Carter got his freak training injury really summed up just what a core component of the All Black game-plan "DC" is. He was playing with customary flair, nous and unflappability until his setback – enough to remind the planet he's without equal at No10.
Next best: Rhys Priestland (Wal)
9 Mike Phillips (Wal)
Back at his best at this World Cup, amidst a thriving Welsh team generally, the unusually imposing scrumhalf earns this spot even with a bit to spare. Scored fine, instinctive tries against Ireland in the quarter-final and France in the semi, too.
Next best: Piri Weepu (NZ)
8 Imanol Harinordoquy (Fra)
Truth be told, this remained a pretty ordinary French side despite their presence in the final. But one man to look consistently good for them was their lanky No 8: the 31-year-old was busy and creative in open play and always a factor at the back of the lineout.
Next best: Toby Faletau (Wal)
7 Schalk Burger (SA)
A really close shave as the South African gets the nod over New Zealand's similarly impressive blind-sider Jerome Kaino: Burger's work-rate and zeal was simply immense from start to finish of the Boks' involvement in the tournament.
Next best: Jerome Kaino (NZ)
6 Richie McCaw (NZ)
Few could begrudge this man lifting the Webb Ellis Cup, could they? McCaw truly led from the front in the overdue All Black success, and kept his mantle as best "pilferer" on the planet ... especially after outplaying a key pretender to the crown, David Pocock, in the semi-final.
Next best: David Pocock (Aus)
5 Victor Matfield (SA)
He may have missed out on the last two tourney rounds, and perhaps a questionable pick given that he also missed two games due to injury, but the Bok legend did more than enough in the lineouts and kick-ins when on the park to sneak into our team.
Next best: Luke Charteris (Wal)
4 James Horwill (Aus)
A late call from Australian coach Robbie Deans to install Horwill as captain of the canary yellows seemed to inspire the man to performances not seen from him prior to RWC. Absolutely immense in the tight-loose.
Next best: Brad Thorn (NZ)
3 Owen Franks (NZ)
The "people's choice" might be the hairy Italian firebrand we have given an honourable mention to, but for an immovable object with a spine cut from ***anium and straighter than your headmaster's cane, look no further than the All Black tighthead.
Next best: Martin Castrogiovanni (Ita)
2 Bismarck du Plessis (SA)
Perhaps a controversial selection in that he started only one game, but on plain playing ability and more importantly the ability to change the course of a match, the Springbok impact player had no peer in the tournament.
Next best: Keven Mealamu (NZ)
1 Tony Woodcock (NZ)
Keeping Cantabrian Wyatt Crockett out of the All Black side is one thing, putting in performances rendering him a Super Rugby memory is extraordinary. His try in the final was the icing on a perfectly baked scrumming cake!
Next best: Cian Healy (Ire)
 
A lot of Welsh players where Wales lost to SA, France and Aus yet only Harinorduquy from the latter 3 countries? Eh, I'm not convinced.

These things are subjective and though it's a fair enough selection (in that nobody on that list sucked the whole tournament LOL) it could be more reflective of the 'truth'.
 
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Them Welsh players listed weren't the one's taking the kicks though. That's what lost them the 3 games. A 50% success ratio would have seen them as finalists which you wouldn't think is a big ask for a first choice kicker...... or 2nd/3rd come to that matter. Anyway, only 3 Welsh players listed in the first team and some of the others.
 
I started by listing all the players that I could remember that had impresse me and had over 60, so made two 30-men squad. They aren't meant to be balanced or anything, just for fun.


Outside backs: Israel Dagg, Cory Jane, George North, Vincent Clerc, Shane Williams.
Centers: Jamie Roberts, Ma'a Nonu, Manu Tuilagi.
FH: Rhys Priestland, Dan Carter.
SH: Mike Phillips, Dimitri Yachvili, Khan Fotuali'i

Backrowers: Kaino, Pocock, Dusautoir, Harinordoquy, Warburton, Sean O'Brien
Locks: Brad Thorn, Luke Charteris, Patricio Albacete
Props: Owen Franks, Nicolas Mas, Healy, Woodcock, Jenkins
Hookers: Servat, Ledesma, Hore

Outside backs: Paul Williams, Pat Lambie, Richard Kahui, James O'Connor, Vasily Artemiev
Centers: Jacque Fourie, DTH Van der Merwe, Piutau
FH: James Arlidge, Merab Kvirikashvili
SH: François Hougaard, Piri Weepu (despite the final), Tanaka

Backrowers: Bonnaire, Stowers, Kleeberger, Faletau, McCaw, Leguizamon
Locks: Jamie Cudmore, Tom Palmer, Dannie Roussow
Props: Kubriashvili, Zhirakashvili, Taumalolo, McDonald, Mtawarira
Hookers: Tincu, Schwalger, Best

My XV of the tournament:
15. Israel Dagg
14. Vincent Clerc
13. Jamie Roberts
12. Ma'a Nonu
11. George North
10. Rhys Priestland
9. Mike Phillips
8. Imanol Harinordoquy
7. Sam Warburton
6. Sean O'Brien
5. Brad Thorn
4. Patricio Albacete
3. Owen Franks
2. William Servat
1. Gethin Jenkins

16. Mario Ledesma
17. Nicolas Mas
18. Luke Charteris
19. Thierry Dusautoir
20. Dimitri Yachvili
21. Dan Carter
22. Cory Jane

This is extremely difficult to make... I just noticed I left Kaino out of the 22... oh what the heck.
 
Dusatoir over O'Brien just from the tournament. Not a clue how he does it's like Dusatoir is possessed any time he sees a black shirt...

I don't think it's unfair to put a fair few Welshmen in that squad, they were inches away from making the final and France only showed up once they'd made it to the final.

The Warburton/McCaw/Pocock debate is interesting. It's just a shame we never got to see Warburton against either of his SH counterparts. Richie definitely put some dominance down on Pocock, but with the ABs pack behind him that's not saying too much.
 
Dagg
Clerc
Ashley-Cooper
Roberts
Kahui
Priestland
Phillips
Harinordoquy
Dusatoir
Ferris
Wyn Jones
Charteris
Franks
Mealamu
Woodcock
 
Dagg
O'Connor
...really don't know who... not a great tournament for outside centres... I just put Roberts here
Nonu
Kahui
Priestland
Phillips
Harinordoquy
Dusautoir
Kaino
Thorn
Horwill
Mas
Servat
Jenkins


Mealamu, A. Jones, A.W. Jones, Ferris, Weepu, ??, Ioane.

I really don't know who to put in 21 jersey... Barnes if only Deans had used him better, or Parra, because after all, he played well at 10!
In my XV there are not too many ABs, because some of them were not so surprising as the ones I put there, but... what's amazing of this team is the consistency found in other players that just 2 months ago weren't even in the starting XV (Kahui, Weepu, Kaino), that's a proof about the quality of these players especially when comes the hour to perform at the highest level.
 
15 - Dagg
14 - Clerc
13 - Smith
12 - Nonu
11 - Ioane
10 - Parra
9 - Fotuali'i
8 - Read
7 - Dusautoir
6 - Kaino
5 - Horwill
4 - Thorn
3 - Franks
2 - Servat
1 - Woodcock

Very respectable 15 in my opinion. Fotuali'i was clearly the best halfback in the tournament but as he plays for Samoa no one noticed him I guess. Dominated against Wales and South Africa.
 
15. Dagg
14. Jane
13. Ashley-Cooper
12. Nonu
11. Ioane
10. Parra
9. Phillips
8. Kaino
7. McCaw
6. Dusautoir
5. Horwill
4. Thorn
3. Franks
2. Du Plessis
1. Mas

Notable mentions, Dan Carter and Rhys Priestland missed out because of injury. And despite the flack Parra recieved, he was well composed throughout the tournament.
Fotuali'i, Yachvili just missed out on my no.9 because I feel Phillips was very instrumental in the Welsh success
Harinordoquy, Faletau, miss out because it's too hard to leave out Kaino who did play at 8 against the Canadians for some time.
 

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