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<div class='quotemain'> What is all this fuss about Steroids? [/b]



Every Man and his Dog was jucied up in the 90's until the MLB got its act together and started stamping it out.



No Reported Cases of R-R-R-ROID RAGE!!1! among former Baseball Players though.
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No there's still a lot of questions about steroids now. Also, it was not only in the 90's but the 2000's also. Since I live in New York, I am a Yankees fan by the way. I have been to a lot of their games, and I am a huge fan.

I also used to play baseball, but stopped when I was 12 too just focus on track in the spring, which has now turned to just soccer all year 'round.

yeah but watching him in the out field he barely ever attemps a difficult catch instead he just lets it bounce and plays it like that, as opposed to someone like Coco Crisp who flings his body allover the place making catches!
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It's just Manny being Manny, everyone that follows baseball knows that.
 
<div class='quotemain'> Anywhere online i can watch a good highlights show of baseball?
I'm presuming nowhere would show full games, but i'd like to see what the sport is actually like.

I've never seen a game of baseball in my life and am curious about what all the fuss is.
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As you were helpfully told above, mlb.com is the home of Major League Baseball, good site with lots of highlights. If you went the best clips from through out the season, from the mlb.com homepage, pick one team's website through the drop down menu in the top left of the page (where it says 'Team Sites' in grey), and when you get onto one of the pages, hover your mouse over 'Multimedia' (just to the right of where you clicked on the 'Team Sites' tab before) and scroll down to the 'Top Plays Archive' - this gives you a list of all of the top plays from the players of that particular team over the past 3 and a half years, up until the present day.

Alternatively, if you can get Channel 5 (in the UK), baseball is shown at 1.00am Sunday night and Wednesday night (so technicaally 1am monday morning and thursday morning respectively, if you see what I mean) and you can watch a whole game.

The best thing to do is to pick a team - just like with any sport, it has to be the one that just feels right, so try and watch a couple of games (obviously they are late night, so you can record them and then watch then whenever you can) and you will see several different teams play. The most important thing is to give it a long enough try - just like any sport, the first game you see may not be the best game in the world, or it may be the best game of baseball in 50 years! Baseball, a bit like cricket and golf, also takes a bit of knowledge and appreciation of the skills and aims of the game to be able to enjoy it as a spectator sport properly - I've been watching for about a year and a half now on Channel 5, and everyday on mlb.com for highlights, news and results, and it took me probably 4 or 5 months to really understand the game properly (being an Englishman, and not brought up with the game), and about a year and a half to fully appreciate it (by that, I mean understand some of the things that at first seem meaningless or trivial, but are actually crucial, and to be able to know how rare and what an accomplishment throwing a no-hitter like Justin Verlander did within the last month is) - though it will take me much longer to learn the history of the game! [/b][/quote]

Too bad they dont have baseball teams over there, im sure you'd love playing it as much as you love watching it. This is probably my final year of baseball, and ill miss playing it loads, i still remember my first year playing when i was in 2nd grade, ahh how my years have passed so quickly!
 
As you were helpfully told above, mlb.com is the home of Major League Baseball, good site with lots of highlights. If you went the best clips from through out the season, from the mlb.com homepage, pick one team's website through the drop down menu in the top left of the page (where it says 'Team Sites' in grey), and when you get onto one of the pages, hover your mouse over 'Multimedia' (just to the right of where you clicked on the 'Team Sites' tab before) and scroll down to the 'Top Plays Archive' - this gives you a list of all of the top plays from the players of that particular team over the past 3 and a half years, up until the present day.

Alternatively, if you can get Channel 5 (in the UK), baseball is shown at 1.00am Sunday night and Wednesday night (so technicaally 1am monday morning and thursday morning respectively, if you see what I mean) and you can watch a whole game.

The best thing to do is to pick a team - just like with any sport, it has to be the one that just feels right, so try and watch a couple of games (obviously they are late night, so you can record them and then watch then whenever you can) and you will see several different teams play. The most important thing is to give it a long enough try - just like any sport, the first game you see may not be the best game in the world, or it may be the best game of baseball in 50 years! Baseball, a bit like cricket and golf, also takes a bit of knowledge and appreciation of the skills and aims of the game to be able to enjoy it as a spectator sport properly - I've been watching for about a year and a half now on Channel 5, and everyday on mlb.com for highlights, news and results, and it took me probably 4 or 5 months to really understand the game properly (being an Englishman, and not brought up with the game), and about a year and a half to fully appreciate it (by that, I mean understand some of the things that at first seem meaningless or trivial, but are actually crucial, and to be able to know how rare and what an accomplishment throwing a no-hitter like Justin Verlander did within the last month is) - though it will take me much longer to learn the history of the game! [/b]

An all round brilliantly informative post.
I think had you not told me the sport was in similar vain to that of golf or cricket then i probably would have lost patience with it early on.
I will be sure to give it a go and give it some time and patience.
 
DC, they do have several teams over here (obviously not too the same standard as Major or even AA Leagues in the US), but the nearest team is about 2 hours drive from me, and playing a lot of cricket and umpiring hockey deep into April meant that I just didn't have the time neccessary. I do, however, absolutely love playing the odd mess-about game in the park or before the start of my cricket matches as a warm-up.

Cymru, no problem mate, thanks for the rep, glad I could help - it definitely does take a bit of time to understand the game, when a certain pitch should be thrown, and when is that pitch thrown well etc., but if you put in that bit of time to understand it, it is a brilliant game.

It's just Manny being Manny, everyone that follows baseball knows that[/b]
Grandslam, you could not be more right! Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz are too of the games biggest and nicest characters, which is why I am a huge fan of both of them, but they aren't neccessarily the most able-bodied in the world... :p

p.s. About choosing your team... especially with only a couple of games being shown a week on UK TV (if you can get Channel 5), take a while to choose 'your team'; it's a much better game, like anything I guess, when you are rooting for one side! I choose the Red Sox last year when they were getting absolutely humped by the Yankees, but it just felt right. Watch out for some of the smaller teams as well, who don't have the same money as the Sox, Yankees, etc., such as Tampa Bay, Houston Astros, Twins, A's - they maybe won't get shown on TV as much, but have some superb players (having said that, ESPN seem to have been showing either the Detroit Tigers or the Atlanta Braves matches for the past 2 months! :p).
 
According to BSBUK, there are 20,000 players in the country, with 50 teams in operation as well as schools, Play Ball World Series, etc.
 
20,000 players - 50 teams?

That's like 400 players to a team!

I must be reading your stats wrong.
 
*sigh* The simpletons... :p



50 teams running at various levels of competition, but aswell as school kids, Play Ball (which is the Junior baseball competition run nationally) and University games - it doesn't mean 400 people per team, just the number of participants who play on at least a semi-regular basis.
 
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<div class='quotemain'> What is all this fuss about Steroids? [/b]



Every Man and his Dog was jucied up in the 90's until the MLB got its act together and started stamping it out.



No Reported Cases of R-R-R-ROID RAGE!!1! among former Baseball Players though.
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No there's still a lot of questions about steroids now. Also, it was not only in the 90's but the 2000's also. Since I live in New York, I am a Yankees fan by the way. I have been to a lot of their games, and I am a huge fan.

I also used to play baseball, but stopped when I was 12 too just focus on track in the spring, which has now turned to just soccer all year 'round.

yeah but watching him in the out field he barely ever attemps a difficult catch instead he just lets it bounce and plays it like that, as opposed to someone like Coco Crisp who flings his body allover the place making catches!
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It's just Manny being Manny, everyone that follows baseball knows that.
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Chill out just because you use that same phrase that everyone uses (Manny being Manny, blah blah blah) doesnt make it right does it, there are a lot of people around here who get fed up with Manny being Manny, i.e. turning up late to spring training etc.
 
So i watched a game today.
Boston Red Sox against someone...good memory, eh?
They lost 2-1 anyway.
Erm...it was weird to say the least. It wasn't difficult to grasp. It's actually a very basic game (of course there were a few things i didn't understand, but that's taken as granted) it was just sureal to watch nad that's because it didn't feel like anything was really happening...yet people still cheered.
And i still enjoyed it. I think the commentators helped wtih that aspect.

Would i have enjoyed it live?
Probably not, because with ESPN there were so many things on screen that i couldn't get lost - but live i most certainly would have sat there dribbling into my lap for 3 hours.
 
I'm not sure that there are that many people people around here that get fed up with Manny being Manny. I'm not.

Manny being Manny



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Round where? East Sussex? Are there many people round there who have even heard of Manny?



Dont get me wrong most people here love him (like me) but a small minority seem to get fed up of his antics. On a side note him and Ortiz seem to be having a much quieter year home run wise then they are used to both on course for under 30 each
 
So i watched a game today.
Boston Red Sox against someone...good memory, eh?
They lost 2-1 anyway.
Erm...it was weird to say the least. It wasn't difficult to grasp. It's actually a very basic game (of course there were a few things i didn't understand, but that's taken as granted) it was just sureal to watch nad that's because it didn't feel like anything was really happening...yet people still cheered.
And i still enjoyed it. I think the commentators helped wtih that aspect.

Would i have enjoyed it live?
Probably not, because with ESPN there were so many things on screen that i couldn't get lost - but live i most certainly would have sat there dribbling into my lap for 3 hours.
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Nah man its a lot better live, i barely ever watch a full game on TV cause i get bored, but a live game those are easy to sit through and watch.
 
<div class='quotemain'> So i watched a game today.
Boston Red Sox against someone...good memory, eh?
They lost 2-1 anyway.
Erm...it was weird to say the least. It wasn't difficult to grasp. It's actually a very basic game (of course there were a few things i didn't understand, but that's taken as granted) it was just sureal to watch nad that's because it didn't feel like anything was really happening...yet people still cheered.
And i still enjoyed it. I think the commentators helped wtih that aspect.

Would i have enjoyed it live?
Probably not, because with ESPN there were so many things on screen that i couldn't get lost - but live i most certainly would have sat there dribbling into my lap for 3 hours.
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Nah man its a lot better live, i barely ever watch a full game on TV cause i get bored, but a live game those are easy to sit through and watch.
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Especially watching it live with a few beers! Although it was 9 bucks a beer at Yankee stadium when I went :rolleyes:
 
So i watched a game today.
Boston Red Sox against someone...good memory, eh?
They lost 2-1 anyway.
Erm...it was weird to say the least. It wasn't difficult to grasp. It's actually a very basic game (of course there were a few things i didn't understand, but that's taken as granted) it was just sureal to watch nad that's because it didn't feel like anything was really happening...yet people still cheered.
And i still enjoyed it. I think the commentators helped wtih that aspect.

Would i have enjoyed it live?
Probably not, because with ESPN there were so many things on screen that i couldn't get lost - but live i most certainly would have sat there dribbling into my lap for 3 hours.
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Firstly I would say that, unfortunately, that probably wasn't the most exciting game to see first up; the same problem my girlfriend had when I tried to show her a baseball game. Beckett throwing a superb game against a Toronto Blue Jays team who scrapped 2 runs, and then the Red Sox's offense completely failing to support him is definitely not the perfect introduction to the game.

Secondly, the reason I suggested watching the game late night on Channel 5 is that ESPN cuts to an ad-break between half-innings, when there's a great play, when the pitcher changes, basically any reason you can think of - the advantage of Channel 5 in the UK is that whenever their ESPN feed takes an Ad break, their coverage goes back to the presenters in the studio who can discuss the latest plays, what the pitching change means, etc. I suggested this not only because it will help a newcomer to understand better what is happening, but also because it makes it a lot more enjoyable to watch because there isn't an Ad break every 16.5 seconds. I have tried watching games in the UK on ESPN, and it is far less enjoyable.

As for your points about it being a simple but sureal game (and I know you weren't having a dig at the game itself), I would say that this is where a bit more experience of watching the game does actually let you appreciate the more intricate and less obvious points of the game - yes, the game you saw wasn't a Home Run, RBI explosion, but there was some excellent pitching from both Josh Beckett and his Blue Jays opponent Jesse Litsch, who actually threw less innings and had a greater number of hits against him, but still got the win - this is where the skill lies, to get out of situations like, for examples, with David Ortiz on second and Eric Hinske hitting a line drive to right, yet no run scoring.

Obviously baseball is a slower-paced game then rugby, or Full-Contact Chinese Mud Death Ball, but I reckon you should give it a couple more goes, you might learn to love it. Though, obviously I am biased. :D


Edit: Just another thought that occured to me. As a massive Red Sox fan, and watching it on semi-highlights without knowing the result, I actually found the pitching dual (what a low scoring game is commonly called) very tense and exciting, especially the moment with Ortiz was thrown out at home plate. As I've said previously, supporting a particularly team, and watching their game if possible, improves any sport.
 
baseball is a pitchers game..

which is the reason why getting a hit 2.7-3 times out of 10 is considered good.
 
I'm a cricket fan so I am perfectly content with sitting back with beer and snacks and staring at a TV screen for hours on end at something which, to the naked eye, may look like paint drying.

Thus, as an extension, I like watching baseball highlights. I think MLB should try and invest in nations where Cricket is popular like the Asian sub-continent rather than having this obsession with pummeling nations who just don't like the damn game with non stop exhibition games, investment and unwanted invites to the Baseball "World Cup".

The strangest paradox was that during World War II, you had two baseball mad nations (Japan & the USA) pitted against each other. Each accused the other of endangering their way of life before saying sternly to the camera "now watch this pitch!" In fact there are a fair few Japanese films about heroic Japanese baseball stars who volunteer for kamikaze missions against the yanks or desperate raids against the British in Burma, etc.

Weird. Just weird.
 
Hazey, you'll be happy to know that i will give baseball another chance.
I wasn't actually going to give up on it anyway because i actually enjoyed the game even tho the score line was so low.
Yeah, i'm sure that i'm missing loads of stuff from the sport, that as a newbie i can't even appreciate yet (like, what the hell is an RBI?!) but it's good that a newbie can get involved in the sport and not feel lost.

I fear i may be leaning towards the Boston Red Sox becuase i've got a t-shirt that i bought from T.K.Maxx for £7 on the red sox...it's one of my favourite lounging-about-the-house-t-shirt and for that i feel i'm obliged to give them a chance first off.
 
RBI = Run Batted In

whenever you get a base hit, a sac fly/ hit, a walk etc and a run scores you get an RBI
 

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