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It seems to me that there are some genuine refugees from Syria and some who are not fleeing persecution but are getting on the bandwagon. Some reports would say 50/50, does this mean that half are on one side of the political fence and the other on the other side ?
If so we could see the conflict continue in which ever country they finally settle in, thus putting British/ European citizens in danger of getting caught in the crossfire.
I feel it is wrong for us to accept any so called political refugees without first checking out each individual and the reason they have left their homeland, surely it would be better and cheaper for right minded nations to get together and stop the warring factions in Syria, if that means us invading Syria then lets do it.
We cannot keep accepting ever growing numbers of people we no nothing about, there will undoubtedly be be murderers rapists and terrorists among them if the proper checks aren't carried out much as Corbyn and his cretins would disagree.
If so we could see the conflict continue in which ever country they finally settle in, thus putting British/ European citizens in danger of getting caught in the crossfire.
I feel it is wrong for us to accept any so called political refugees without first checking out each individual and the reason they have left their homeland, surely it would be better and cheaper for right minded nations to get together and stop the warring factions in Syria, if that means us invading Syria then lets do it.
We cannot keep accepting ever growing numbers of people we no nothing about, there will undoubtedly be be murderers rapists and terrorists among them if the proper checks aren't carried out much as Corbyn and his cretins would disagree.
Is that a good thing...?
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More like a family who can't get their own house in order so they break into the neighbours.
You're blaming those fleeing conflict for not toppling e.g. Islamic State? What would you do instead of fleeing, when the groups intent on murdering and your family have seized power?
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I'm not blaming those people. I'm blaming the EU for opening the borders which has resulted in thousands of those people being killed crossing into Europe.
Of course, the alternative was that the refugees get killed in their war-torn countries instead?
The problem wasn't letting them in, it was the botched way in which it was done.
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What about people all over the world who live in rough neighbourhoods? Do they have a right to march into Europe too?
Rough neighbourhoods? People aren't risking death by fleeing to Europe because Mr and Mrs ASBO have moved in next door.
Hypothetically, what are you going to do if your house has been destroyed, you're fearing for your life, your possessions are those which you can carry on your back, and you have a family to consider? Where are you going to go?
btw, this is a rough neighbourhood:
And, without going NSFW, this is what Syrians are actually escaping:
Obviously haven't been to Bathgate.
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And where does it end? My point is that there could be a billion people who have good reason to claim asylum. Should we take all of those too? Its lunacy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope
If too many people are claiming asylum under false pretences, then we'll review it at that point. Spuriously throwing out that maybe a billion people will claim asylum one day in order to discredit the asylum process is scaremongering and it will never happen.
The argument "where does it end" can be used to discredit nearly everything. No different to suggesting, "They bottle water now, but what if one day they bottle arsenic?" A fact, followed by an extreme hypothetical, linked by flimsy reasoning.
Lets have this right:
1. Vast majority of refugees from Syria are in Lebanon, Jordan and Turkey the numbers in Europe are small in comparison.
2. Nearly all those travelling through Europe are heading for Germany because they will get basic rights when they arrive like the ability to work etc.
3. Most apart from a few in Calais dont even want to come to Britain so lets not pretend there are hordes of kiddy fiddling, suicide bombers all clambering to claim our benifits and rape our daughters as reported in the daily mail because in truth they would rather be in Germany.
4. Unless I'm mistaken these people are human ****ing beings unless anyone has forgotten. I have seen refugees before in the Balkens and its never a pretty site.
Should we take more? Yes its the decent thing to do but we must spread the burden to others and not just dump them in the middle of Luton and pretend we have done the right thing.
1. Vast majority of refugees from Syria are in Lebanon, Jordan and Turkey the numbers in Europe are small in comparison.
2. Nearly all those travelling through Europe are heading for Germany because they will get basic rights when they arrive like the ability to work etc.
3. Most apart from a few in Calais dont even want to come to Britain so lets not pretend there are hordes of kiddy fiddling, suicide bombers all clambering to claim our benifits and rape our daughters as reported in the daily mail because in truth they would rather be in Germany.
4. Unless I'm mistaken these people are human ****ing beings unless anyone has forgotten. I have seen refugees before in the Balkens and its never a pretty site.
Should we take more? Yes its the decent thing to do but we must spread the burden to others and not just dump them in the middle of Luton and pretend we have done the right thing.
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I'm not one to advocate war for the fun of it. It's an absolute last resort in my eyes, and I know it isn't really practical from a fiscal standpoint because a lot of countries are already recovering from the recession and the Iraq war. But the Assad regime needs to be destroyed and eliminated. It's as simple as that, otherwise you're just going to keep having this problem. It doesn't have to be full scale, but some intervention needs to happen.
The refugees have increased year on year since 2011. The UN High Commissioner for Refugees says this is the largest humanitarian emergency of our era. UNHCR estimates that there are 50 million refugees worldwide, and the increase is largely due to the Syrian civil war. Put simply, the Government of Syria's behavior towards human rights is atrocious, and it needs to end. There has been no improvement to the situation, no efforts to back down on how they treat their people. And now it is spilling into the rest of the world.
Other nations in the region need to accept their responsibility. Saudi Arabia has donated money, yes, but they have accepted virtually none of them despite their proximity. Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Bahrain are all guilty of this. So if we're going to sit around debating about which local London suburb they should be accepted into, let's also get that crap sorted. Because some nations are being very selfish.
The refugees have increased year on year since 2011. The UN High Commissioner for Refugees says this is the largest humanitarian emergency of our era. UNHCR estimates that there are 50 million refugees worldwide, and the increase is largely due to the Syrian civil war. Put simply, the Government of Syria's behavior towards human rights is atrocious, and it needs to end. There has been no improvement to the situation, no efforts to back down on how they treat their people. And now it is spilling into the rest of the world.
Other nations in the region need to accept their responsibility. Saudi Arabia has donated money, yes, but they have accepted virtually none of them despite their proximity. Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Bahrain are all guilty of this. So if we're going to sit around debating about which local London suburb they should be accepted into, let's also get that crap sorted. Because some nations are being very selfish.
The assad regime is the only organisation that can take on IS apart from the Turkish army. If you get rid of Assad then IS will fill the power vacum.
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We're told different things every year. Londoners were not told in the 50's that in a lifetime they would be a minority. Nope, they just keep coming and the more numbers that come, the more we're expected to take. The numbers are shocking.
For the time being thats all we can do, in terms of stopping the civil war in Syria then Turkey have to go on the offensive more as do Lebenon and possibly Jordan. We have a choice: IS or Assad? we need to back one to destroy the other the region needs to be stable.
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You're spending money on the internet when that money could go to the hungry so unless you're a Mother Teresa, don't lecture people on what the decent thing to do it.
WHo the **** are you? This is an open forum and that is what I think. Shall I check in with you next time? Yeah right
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