A Political Thread pt. 2

[pagliaccio_euforico]

Not just foreign counties but businesses don't like operating when the rules change every 30 days

 

[McTallshort]

I havnt got that far, but that's where it gets merky for me, inheritance tax I get, that's probably a topic all of itself, but how do you tax wealth when those with the type of wealth worth taxing have the means to move that wealth elsewhere?

Globalisation has allowed for money to move a long way, nationalities are for sale etc...

You can do that with your liquid wealth but if you have a large property portfolio (property is the cause of the imbalance in the UK) then they can't more those.

 

[AlRums]

Trump tariffs latest: Trump threatens extra 50% tariff on China unless it drops retaliatory levy

Turmoil caused by Donald Trump's tariffs continues - but the president urges people not to be "weak" or "stupid".

www.bbc.co.uk

The morons gone off on one again with the threats.

 

[dirty harry]

Trump tariffs latest: Trump threatens extra 50% tariff on China unless it drops retaliatory levy

Turmoil caused by Donald Trump's tariffs continues - but the president urges people not to be "weak" or "stupid".

www.bbc.co.uk

The morons gone off on one again with the threats.

That was an interesting read, apparently nearly 50 countries have reached out and began negotiations regarding tarrifs...

Including the EU who met in Brussells and the sentiment was very negotiation heavy.

Paints a bit of a picture no?

 

[ncurd]

That was an interesting read, apparently nearly 50 countries have reached out and began negotiations regarding tarrifs...

Including the EU who met in Brussells and the sentiment was very negotiation heavy.

Paints a bit of a picture no?

Paints a picture that's he's ******* their economies and the entire global economy is the gutter and they'll do what required to come out as least scathed as possible.

Only a complete tool would think this vindication of Trump's "plan".

 

[McTallshort]

Paints a picture that's he's ******* their economies and the entire global economy is the gutter and they'll do what required to come out as least scathed as possible.

Only a complete tool would think this vindication of Trump's "plan".

If Trump says 50 countries you have to "third" that. It's like young men talking about their sexual conquest's

 

[ncurd]

If Trump says 50 countries you have to "third" that. It's like young men talking about their sexual conquest's

Ah good point!

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Paints a picture that's he's ******* their economies and the entire global economy is the gutter and they'll do what required to come out as least scathed as possible.

Only a complete tool would think this vindication of Trump's "plan".

Trump's approach to "deals" has always been crude, he relies on starting from a position of strength and essentially doing the old Darth Vader "I've altered the deal" act. There is never really any finesse or guile, it's just throw toys out of the pram and threaten ever increasing punishment as he tears up the existing deal until he gets his way. If he didn't have the economic, military and technological might of the USA behind him, he'd be laughed at and isolated.

 

[dirty harry]

Paints a picture that's he's ******* their economies and the entire global economy is the gutter and they'll do what required to come out as least scathed as possible.

Only a complete tool would think this vindication of Trump's "plan".

I don't thinknits a vindication, far from it. I'm not sure if you watched the video I posted about this tarriff plan being two fold, positioning the USA ahead of China's industrial ability for war, and resetting the dollar as the global currency.

Chinese military production has ramped up so much that some analysts now say the USA would struggle fighting China in Asian territories, the the production potential of China out weighs the USA's. If Taiwan is there for grabs, how does the US respond to this?

 

[ncurd]

I don't thinknits a vindication, far from it. I'm not sure if you watched the video I posted about this tarriff plan being two fold, positioning the USA ahead of China's industrial ability for war, and resetting the dollar as the global currency.

Chinese military production has ramped up so much that some analysts now say the USA would struggle fighting China in Asian territories, the the production potential of China out weighs the USA's. If Taiwan is there for grabs, how does the US respond to this?

You're still suggesting he has a "plan" or "reasoning"

 

[dirty harry]

If Trump says 50 countries you have to "third" that. It's like young men talking about their sexual conquest's

This was the claim made by the BBC wasn't it, oh hang on nonit was by Reuters news agency. Can't imagine their best pleased with Trump since being booted from covering him lol.

But letsbsay it is less, I was still hoping these domino's wouldn't fall as fast, Trump needed some early concessions by weak leaders that was going to pressure others to respond faster.

The comments from the EU about zero tarriff trade are disappointing also

 

[dirty harry]

You're still suggesting he has a "plan" or "reasoning"

One of his senior economists wrote an article spelling this out (although not to this extent) a while ago, a playbook if you will. Can't remember his name now, but Trump seems to be following this logic with a twist of hisnown unique brash Ness.

It makes far more sense to me than the proposed monkey smashing pens and laptop you seem to think. I just can't believe a man who can strategise 2 successful campaigns to become the most powerfull man on the planet is a complete moron, that doesn't compute.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

One of his senior economists wrote an article spelling this out (although not to this extent) a while ago, a playbook if you will. Can't remember his name now, but Trump seems to be following this logic with a twist of hisnown unique brash Ness.

It makes far more sense to me than the proposed monkey smashing pens and laptop you seem to think. I just can't believe a man who can strategise 2 successful campaigns to become the most powerfull man on the planet is a complete moron, that doesn't compute.

Trump wasn't the strategist in his electoral campaigns though? It was the people behind him that were the brains of it. Might be wrong but I've not read anywhere that Trump was the one who did any of the strategizing. Even now he is following the Project 2025 playbook for the most part, which was created by others.

 

[AlRums]

If Trump says 50 countries you have to "third" that. It's like young men talking about their sexual conquest's

More like 5-10

 

[dirty harry]

Trump wasn't the strategist in his electoral campaigns though? It was the people behind him that were the brains of it. Might be wrong but I've not read anywhere that Trump was the one who did any of the strategizing. Even now he is following the Project 2025 playbook for the most part, which was created by others.

Oh definately, his first campaign especially was a stroke of genius. I rate what Conway did, she really was the corner stone of victory IMO.

My point is, maybe not well put, is that idiots with no plan, no strategy and no brains just don't rise to the level of leader of the free world twice. They don't become cultural icons (pre presidentlcy days), they don't manage billion dollar port folio etc, I'm not saying he's the smartest man on the planet, but I just can't accept that he's a moron, with a team of Harvard trained world class economic professionals, and he ignores them while eating crayons screaming for more burgers.

We can hate him as much as we want, but there has to be a level of honesty in these conversations.

If his lead economists wrote papers on how to reinforce the dollar as the world's reserve currency, and spoke of tarriffs, and trade as tool to do this, and his strategists have highlighted Chinese military production potential as an issue needing addressing, then it's safe to say, even on some low level this is a strategy based in professional consideration.

Now I'm not saying his impulsiveness, especially with the Chinese tarriff hikes today isn't a part also, but the idea that a moron can reach and achieve what he has? Come on.

 

[Saintjay]

I Don't buy he's a moron. He has some very bright and capable people around him. The same as there are very bright and capable people in the Republican party. The fact he's turned the party into this Maga hive mind is an achievement in itself.

People bought what he was selling. He knew what they wanted to hear and he sold it. Even as unpalatable as that was for some. That's far from stupid.

If he's a moron, his team and the Republicans. God knows what that says about the Democrats.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Oh definately, his first campaign especially was a stroke of genius. I rate what Conway did, she really was the corner stone of victory IMO.

My point is, maybe not well put, is that idiots with no plan, no strategy and no brains just don't rise to the level of leader of the free world twice. They don't become cultural icons (pre presidentlcy days), they don't manage billion dollar port folio etc, I'm not saying he's the smartest man on the planet, but I just can't accept that he's a moron, with a team of Harvard trained world class economic professionals, and he ignores them while eating crayons screaming for more burgers.

We can hate him as much as we want, but there has to be a level of honesty in these conversations.

If his lead economists wrote papers on how to reinforce the dollar as the world's reserve currency, and spoke of tarriffs, and trade as tool to do this, and his strategists have highlighted Chinese military production potential as an issue needing addressing, then it's safe to say, even on some low level this is a strategy based in professional consideration.

Now I'm not saying his impulsiveness, especially with the Chinese tarriff hikes today isn't a part also, but the idea that a moron can reach and achieve what he has? Come on.

We're going to have to disagree then, many who have worked with him directly throughout his life have confirmed he is a moron. You need a certain degree of manipulative ability certainly and bags of self-assurance but the presidency is a popularity contest. Got to remember that his business empire was built primarily by his father, not him. By the time he took the reins, the empire was already well established with a very capable team of advisors etc. The things we can put down as Trump ideas were pretty much universally failures.

All the way from uni, where one of his professors said Trump was the "dumbest goddam student I ever had" to the presidency where multiple senior staff members called him an idiot. Whilst you may argue you don't get where Trump is by being a moron, I say you also don't get that many people close to you throughout your life calling you a moron if you aren't.

Hell Reagan became president and the guy is well known for being thick as ****.

Trump is a manipulator, which is not the same as being a strategist. By their nature highly impulsive people are also awful at long term thinking.

 

[Lé Ddanno]

He bankrupted casinos. Casinos.

 

[AlRums]

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/114297331052690348/embed

 

[AlRums]

This was the claim made by the BBC wasn't it, oh hang on nonit was by Reuters news agency. Can't imagine their best pleased with Trump since being booted from covering him lol.

But letsbsay it is less, I was still hoping these domino's wouldn't fall as fast, Trump needed some early concessions by weak leaders that was going to pressure others to respond faster.

The comments from the EU about zero tarriff trade are disappointing also

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/114297073854983088

Strumpet said it himself on twuth.