A Political Thread pt. 2

[Bada-Bing!]

This circus just keeps on giving. Planning on Turning Gaza into a riviera, not ending the war in Ukraine in 24 hours, then 100 days and who knows when…., humiliating Zelensky for ratings, ******* off Canada by claiming it will be the 51st state, trying buy Greenland, employing a non democratically elected Nazi to cut Federal Govt tanking his own company, spending and now this.

This is what 77m Americans elected him for . America First!!!!

 

[McTallshort]

No Course fishing tackle is made in the US. It's all made in China and I absolutely wouldn't buy an American car as they are massively inferior to German and Japanese ones.

 

[dirty harry]

You guys are looking at this all wrong!!!

Yes it looks disastrous, yes the world is rocked, and yes Trump is going off like a madman...

But also, we have the opportunity to average down in to stocks, shares, crypto and NFT... I'm going balls deep again, adding more than 75% of my current portfolio, with it rising to 100% to 200% as things fall...

Between this opportunity and my colleague reacting as well as expected when I gave her her leaving present of a MAGA hat, this has been a good day hahahaha

 

[Saintjay]

No Course fishing tackle is made in the US. It's all made in China and I absolutely wouldn't buy an American car as they are massively inferior to German and Japanese ones.

Tbh loved my old Focus and Mondeo. Really good cars. Experience with newer Bmw's hasn't been great.

Cars can be just be a lottery, but got to agree that the Korean/Japanese cars I've had have been the best by miles.

 

[AlRums]

Trump is a genius businessman. I'm sure he's got this.

You forgot the /s

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

Hard to imagine I'll buy anything other than a Toyota/lexus. They last forever. But kia really seems to have turned things around.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Trump = Joker.

 

[dirty harry]

On a more semi serious note, the real question is whether the Trump approach to tariffs is:

Strategic, in which the chaos is a deliberate ploy to make trading partners more willing to offer concessions, fearful of what is coming next from then USA, and frarful to lose out to a quick acting more savvy national leader, or

Chaos for chaos sake, with no real underlying strategy, being made up largely on the hoof, and Trump does not know much of the complexities of public policy.

We all know what Trump has probably designed it as, and we all know what you guys will claim, but when you dig deeper it kind of looks like a hail Mary with 150 balls to 300 receivers...

I think this has as much potential to backfire as it does of working and opening up barrier free trade going forward, but it will require the first domino to fall.

We know that won't be the EU won't have the capability to react, too many agendas and too many power struggles, their trade deal days slowed up real fast.

 

[McTallshort]

Tbh loved my old Focus and Mondeo. Really good cars. Experience with newer Bmw's hasn't been great.

Cars can be just be a lottery, but got to agree that the Korean/Japanese cars I've had have been the best by miles.

Arnt those ford cars you mentioned built in the UK and wouldn't be under the tariffs anyway?

 

[AlRums]

5th largest one day loss in history, beaten only by himself, strumpet must be so proud.

 

[McTallshort]

Hard to imagine I'll buy anything other than a Toyota/lexus. They last forever. But kia really seems to have turned things around.

Are you an Uber driver? I only ask because my missus has a Toyota hybrid and it's the only non Uber one in Coventry

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

Are you an Uber driver? I only ask because my missus has a Toyota hybrid and it's the only non Uber one in Coventry

Haha no. But I know for awhile every uber driver in Montreal drove a Prius.

But how does she like it? I have a 100% ice Camry and it's great. Can even put a hitch on for a bike rack. Coworker loves her Camry hybrid.

 

[dirty harry]

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5th largest one day loss in history, beaten only by himself, strumpet must be so proud.

How amazing is this!!!!

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

On a more semi serious note, the real question is whether the Trump approach to tariffs is:

Strategic, in which the chaos is a deliberate ploy to make trading partners more willing to offer concessions, fearful of what is coming next from then USA, and frarful to lose out to a quick acting more savvy national leader, or

Chaos for chaos sake, with no real underlying strategy, being made up largely on the hoof, and Trump does not know much of the complexities of public policy.

We all know what Trump has probably designed it as, and we all know what you guys will claim, but when you dig deeper it kind of looks like a hail Mary with 150 balls to 300 receivers...

I think this has as much potential to backfire as it does of working and opening up barrier free trade going forward, but it will require the first domino to fall.

We know that won't be the EU won't have the capability to react, too many agendas and too many power struggles, their trade deal days slowed up real fast.

Trump has never shown any level of long term strategic thinking in anything he does, he is impulsive and those who work with him confirm he doesn't have the attention or mental capacity to deal with large, complex issues. Also, given Trump's habit to renege on anything he negotiates that he then decides he doesn't like and also his habit to flip his opinion between rage and praise at the drop of a hat, any deal with him is essentially worthless.

He tore up an existing trade agreement between the American nations, replaced it with a worse one and now has torn that one up and acted like someone else was at fault for it. He fired FBI directors, replaced them only to then fire them again when the whole point of them being put in post for 10 years is precisely to prevent that sort of political firing.

I think there's 2 more likely options:
1) He has got it into his head that other nations need to be "punished" economically and at some point found out about tariffs. Since that point he has developed an obsession and thinks all international issues can be resolved with tariffs. There is no strategy, no greater level of thinking, he simply genuinely believes that tariffs are this magic cure to all economic problems in the USA. I haven't yet worked out whether he genuinely believes other nations pay the tariffs or is just lying about that.

2) He has mates and organisations behind the scenes that stand to make colossal sums of money off the back of the stock market crashing in shall we say a very predictable way...

 

[Reiser99]

On a more semi serious note, the real question is whether the Trump approach to tariffs is:

Strategic, in which the chaos is a deliberate ploy to make trading partners more willing to offer concessions, fearful of what is coming next from then USA, and frarful to lose out to a quick acting more savvy national leader, or

Chaos for chaos sake, with no real underlying strategy, being made up largely on the hoof, and Trump does not know much of the complexities of public policy.

We all know what Trump has probably designed it as, and we all know what you guys will claim, but when you dig deeper it kind of looks like a hail Mary with 150 balls to 300 receivers...

I think this has as much potential to backfire as it does of working and opening up barrier free trade going forward, but it will require the first domino to fall.

We know that won't be the EU won't have the capability to react, too many agendas and too many power struggles, their trade deal days slowed up real fast.

I feel like it's a giant game of chicken and Trump is just trying to force countries to blink first and sign a bad trade deal that only benefits America. I feel his reasoning is that America can tough it out longer. UK seems desperate to be the first to sign a deal, if we do then we'll get to see roughly what Trump is expecting in return. You'd hope it's not worse thank the blanket 10% tariff but you never know...

 

[McTallshort]

Haha no. But I know for awhile every uber driver in Montreal drove a Prius.

But how does she like it? I have a 100% ice Camry and it's great. Can even put a hitch on for a bike rack. Coworker loves her Camry hybrid.

She loves it . But i still take the ****

 

[AlRums]

Trump has never shown any level of long term strategic thinking in anything he does, he is impulsive and those who work with him confirm he doesn't have the attention or mental capacity to deal with large, complex issues. Also, given Trump's habit to renege on anything he negotiates that he then decides he doesn't like and also his habit to flip his opinion between rage and praise at the drop of a hat, any deal with him is essentially worthless.

He tore up an existing trade agreement between the American nations, replaced it with a worse one and now has torn that one up and acted like someone else was at fault for it. He fired FBI directors, replaced them only to then fire them again when the whole point of them being put in post for 10 years is precisely to prevent that sort of political firing.

I think there's 2 more likely options:
1) He has got it into his head that other nations need to be "punished" economically and at some point found out about tariffs. Since that point he has developed an obsession and thinks all international issues can be resolved with tariffs. There is no strategy, no greater level of thinking, he simply genuinely believes that tariffs are this magic cure to all economic problems in the USA. I haven't yet worked out whether he genuinely believes other nations pay the tariffs or is just lying about that.

2) He has mates and organisations behind the scenes that stand to make colossal sums of money off the back of the stock market crashing in shall we say a very predictable way...

I think trump is more transactional.bhe just understand the ebb and flow of economics.

He only thinks in profit and loss, he regards deficits as losses and vice versa.

It doesn't seem to have occured to him that the US is essentially a consumer nation and isn't really interested in building much.

Therefore many businesses in pursuit of profit decided to farm out the grunt work to reduce the expensive part of production, wages.

 

[Saintjay]

Arnt those ford cars you mentioned built in the UK and wouldn't be under the tariffs anyway?

Pretty much, my grand parents were life long Ford workers from Dagenham then to the parts plant in Daventry, N'hants.

Ford will now be paying more for the parts shipped to America, absolutely mad.

 

[Which Tyler]

 

[Welsh Exile]

Trump has never shown any level of long term strategic thinking in anything he does, he is impulsive and those who work with him confirm he doesn't have the attention or mental capacity to deal with large, complex issues. Also, given Trump's habit to renege on anything he negotiates that he then decides he doesn't like and also his habit to flip his opinion between rage and praise at the drop of a hat, any deal with him is essentially worthless.

He tore up an existing trade agreement between the American nations, replaced it with a worse one and now has torn that one up and acted like someone else was at fault for it. He fired FBI directors, replaced them only to then fire them again when the whole point of them being put in post for 10 years is precisely to prevent that sort of political firing.

I think there's 2 more likely options:
1) He has got it into his head that other nations need to be "punished" economically and at some point found out about tariffs. Since that point he has developed an obsession and thinks all international issues can be resolved with tariffs. There is no strategy, no greater level of thinking, he simply genuinely believes that tariffs are this magic cure to all economic problems in the USA. I haven't yet worked out whether he genuinely believes other nations pay the tariffs or is just lying about that.

2) He has mates and organisations behind the scenes that stand to make colossal sums of money off the back of the stock market crashing in shall we say a very predictable way...

Does Trump know what a Tariff is? I wouldn't put my house on it.