A Political Thread pt. 2

[General Melchett]

Don't forget Taiwan in there as well.

The "interesting" thing we need to wait for is if he'll actively sabotage Ukraine (for example) by applying pressure on the likes of UK, Germany, SKorea to decrease involvement, or just sit back and not get USA involved.

Of course. Europe still has some leverage with three countries in the G7. China seems to be America's biggest adversary (certainly from an economic perspective at least) and America has so far enjoyed support from Europe (including the UK) with it's stance on Taiwan and anti-China agenda. This could change if he starts playing silly buggers with Europe/NATO. Probably what Putin wants - a divided west.

Not sure he'd go as far breaking up NATO (think his previous rhetoric were more to get other countries to cough up more) but I can see him selling Ukraine down the river and being played by Putin. His claim that he'd have it settled in a day suggests to me that conversations may have already been had with Russia.

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

If trump wins, maybe then the democrats will finally get their act together and put forward some real candidates, assuming democracy isn't completely destroyed

Absolutely blaming the dems for 1. not learning the right lessons and 2. picking a terrible candidate that they didn't even want until they had no other choice.

Democracy will be fine (as much as you can call the current shitshow fine), and there will be another election in 4 years - Dems need to work out their mistake (calling half the country racist, mysoginist etc isn't that lesson), and pick someone decent.

Ready for 4 years of chaos and nonsense...

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Ukraine situation is gonna be a concern - will the US just entirely pull all funding? It's what Trump wants to do
The non-Russian-border-EU nations have dragged their heels massively the whole war and could just use it as an excuse to back down, gonna just end up UK, Poland and Finland vs Russia

China will almost definitely make moves on Taiwan as well

Disagree with Taiwan it's way too important for American tech.

Also America has vested interest in it already

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Killmonger can't even pretend to contain the excitement.

Bit weird that Israel is the reason touted by a lot of non-voters and independents

They can claim "they're as bad as each other" all they want but come the **** on
Trump's son in law is planning on building luxury condos there after it's razed to the ground

 

[General Melchett]

Ready for 4 years of chaos and nonsense...

This is going to include unprecedented levels of election interference in Europe and beyond with Musk and Trump tweeting against any non right wing politician they don't want to win power.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Disagree with Taiwan it's way too important for American tech.

But hasn't trump 180d on China this election run and been sucking up to them loads? Might just let them have Taiwan under the proviso that nothing changes with manufacturing etc.

 

[Welsh Exile]

RIP Ukraine.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

2. picking a terrible candidate that they didn't even want until they had no other choice

Biden really screwed them by clinging on as long as he did so that Harris was the only possible candidate - if they'd spent the last 4 years building up someone else they could have done so much better,
Walz kinda came out of nowhere on the political landscape and seems to be a genuinely likeable/good politician who polls very well individually - what if they'd invested the last 4 years into making him the presidential candidate instead?

Last time round Biden had the pop of being very popular as Obama's VP, Harris had the legacy of failing massively when trying to run as the Dem nominee previously, and being generally unpopular as Biden's VP

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

But hasn't trump 180d on China this election run and been sucking up to them loads? Might just let them have Taiwan under the proviso that nothing changes with manufacturing etc.

I thought Trump was planning to **** them hard with the tariffs still?

 

[Saintjay]

Disagree with Taiwan it's way too important for American tech.

Also America has vested interest in it already

I think you are right. America are more worried about China and it's impact on there jobs and economy. I definitely think a trade war with tariffs for Europe and China is on the cards.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

I thought Trump was planning to **** them hard with the tariffs still?

Completely forgot about that, he flip flops so much
I just remember him threatening to pull military support from Taiwan if they don't pay for it

Hopefully you're right, but really who knows with Trump - he's completely surrounded himself with Yes Men - so if Xi comes along with a big sack of cash and promises who's going to stop Trump?

 

[TRF_Olyy]

It's absolutely insane that he's going to put RFK Jr in charge of health - the guy has literal brain worms and is an anti-vaxxer

 

[Saintjay]

Completely forgot about that, he flip flops so much
I just remember him threatening to pull military support from Taiwan if they don't pay for it

Hopefully you're right, but really who knows with Trump - he's completely surrounded himself with Yes Men - so if Xi comes along with a big sack of cash and promises who's going to stop Trump?

David Lammy.

 

[General Melchett]

David Lammy.

He has already flip flopped and tweeted his congrats citing the special relationship. Think most politicians have at some point slagged off Trump. Even JD Vance has and did a U turn as soon as he got wind that he was a possible VP pick.

 

[General Melchett]

Maybe it's just better Trump won so that we can get his second term out of the way and hope that Project 2025 is a myth. If he'd lost we'd have a load of political violence and him probably running again in 2028 which would have meant 8 more years of his shite.

 

[McTallshort]

We are obviously all looking at this from a foreign policy point of view and I agree, I absolutely didn't want to see Trump (Musk) get anywhere near power but he won convincingly. There is an American military analyst I follow on YouTube, he's very pro Ukraine/NATO, doesn't get involved in politics but calls out disinformation on both sides and certainly isn't a fan of Musk but on a recent podcast he was asked what kept him awake at night and he said the southern border. He said there is no control and anyone should be sending people without being checked and this to him was a worry.

If this is how most Americans think then it's easy to see why Trump won and in time I think we will come to realise that Harris wasn't that good a candidate either.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

The victory speech is the ramblings of a mad man, wild.

Dana White is a weasel.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Dana White is a weasel.

I hate him and Musk with a passion

Those two and Trump really are just scum personified, insane the hero worship they get

 

[General Melchett]

We are obviously all looking at this from a foreign policy point of view and I agree, I absolutely didn't want to see Trump (Musk) get anywhere near power but he won convincingly. There is an American military analyst I follow on YouTube, he's very pro Ukraine/NATO, doesn't get involved in politics but calls out disinformation on both sides and certainly isn't a fan of Musk but on a recent podcast he was asked what kept him awake at night and he said the southern border. He said there is no control and anyone should be sending people without being checked and this to him was a worry.

If this is how most Americans think then it's easy to see why Trump won and in time I think we will come to realise that Harris wasn't that good a candidate either.

Senate Republicans block border security bill as they campaign on border chaos

Nearly every GOP senator, along with six Democrats, voted to filibuster a bipartisan bill designed to crack down on migration and reduce border crossings.

www.nbcnews.com

And their 'kill the bill so they could run a campaign on border chaos' tactic worked like a charm.

 

[McTallshort]

Senate Republicans block border security bill as they campaign on border chaos

Nearly every GOP senator, along with six Democrats, voted to filibuster a bipartisan bill designed to crack down on migration and reduce border crossings.

www.nbcnews.com

And their 'kill the bill so they could run a campaign on border chaos' tactic worked like a charm.

Yeah, break something and tell everyone you are the only ones who can fix it.