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A Political Thread pt. 2

OK so you've become God empower of the Internet, how do you solve the problem of dangerous ideas on big platforms?
I think its day is coming. The Internet is fairly young still (relatively speaking) and we're already seeing things being tightened in terms of how we use it. There was a time where there was no restrictions and pretty much everything and anything went.

But as the Internet God, I would definitely block the West Midlands.
 
You have responsible content creators. Personally, if I had the biggest podcast in the world I'd wouldn't give any air time to conspiracy theorists, there's no real merit, for example, of watching a scientist debate some lunatic for 4 hours about whether the Earth is round. However, if you feel the need to give air time to these cretins then at the very least make your audience aware of the facts by either challenging them yourself or getting respected people in that field to challenge the conspiracy. You don't just let them rant for 4 hours and call them a national treasure. That would be a good start.
You Say that, but the traditional meaning of 'conspiracy theory' has been corrupted in recent years, and now is used as a pejorative against people who disagree with someone.

There's a saying going around, that the difference between a conspiracy theory and government disclosure is about 6 months.

Let's put a conspiracy into a specific. CNN named Rogan a conspiracy theorist and a perpetrator of misinformation, and claimed he took a horse dewormer when he made a video about catching COVID. Now a lot of people, including medical professionals were named conspiracy theorists around this time, for offering well informed and basic info. A CNN Dr later was a guest and had to walk that CNN claim back, and even Cuomo who.mocked and ridiculed Rogan recently made the claim he never claimed Ivermectin to be a horse dewormer, and that he never ridiculed Rogan, despite the clip being played to him.

So in this scenario, was Rogan, who was prescribed a number of medications, including Ivermectin a conspiracy theorist?

I only ask, because, and I don't think you mean to, the trap being set with labels is a nefarious politicised thing, and falling into that trap benefits nobody IMO.

I'm not saying all Conspiracies are true, that would be insane, but I think it would also be insane to make the claim none can be true.

I was called a conspiracy theorist recently, for claiming the bag of Cocaine found at the whitehouse last year was likely the Presidents son, who has a history of cocaine use, has regularly attended the White house, and the powers that be would have reason for hiding any video, audio or eye witness evidence in which there would 100% be.

Now technically I've taken an action, and without the knowledge of direct evidence made an assumption, but I think that's a pretty safe bet given the alternative. Would you also have labelled my theory a conspiracy
 
I think its day is coming. The Internet is fairly young still (relatively speaking) and we're already seeing things being tightened in terms of how we use it. There was a time where there was no restrictions and pretty much everything and anything went.

But as the Internet God, I would definitely block the West Midlands.
Can I make an appeal to add London to the list, I mean West Wales and Cornwall don't get it anyway, so they will never miss it!
 
You Say that, but the traditional meaning of 'conspiracy theory' has been corrupted in recent years, and now is used as a pejorative against people who disagree with someone.

There's a saying going around, that the difference between a conspiracy theory and government disclosure is about 6 months.

Let's put a conspiracy into a specific. CNN named Rogan a conspiracy theorist and a perpetrator of misinformation, and claimed he took a horse dewormer when he made a video about catching COVID. Now a lot of people, including medical professionals were named conspiracy theorists around this time, for offering well informed and basic info. A CNN Dr later was a guest and had to walk that CNN claim back, and even Cuomo who.mocked and ridiculed Rogan recently made the claim he never claimed Ivermectin to be a horse dewormer, and that he never ridiculed Rogan, despite the clip being played to him.

So in this scenario, was Rogan, who was prescribed a number of medications, including Ivermectin a conspiracy theorist?

I only ask, because, and I don't think you mean to, the trap being set with labels is a nefarious politicised thing, and falling into that trap benefits nobody IMO.

I'm not saying all Conspiracies are true, that would be insane, but I think it would also be insane to make the claim none can be true.

I was called a conspiracy theorist recently, for claiming the bag of Cocaine found at the whitehouse last year was likely the Presidents son, who has a history of cocaine use, has regularly attended the White house, and the powers that be would have reason for hiding any video, audio or eye witness evidence in which there would 100% be.

Now technically I've taken an action, and without the knowledge of direct evidence made an assumption, but I think that's a pretty safe bet given the alternative. Would you also have labelled my theory a conspiracy
Rogan does peddle misinformation, though. That doesn't mean to say everything he says or platforms is bad or that there are no conspiracies but when you're talking these large scale ones like moon landing, planet shape, Covid conspiracy, etc etc they are, objectively, a load of ********. Now that doesn't mean to say the "expert" class don't get things wrong but it also doesn't mean we should listen to Gary next door when he says COVID isn't real or that it's a biological weapon made by the Jews. I mean, when you're sick, you go to the Dr, right? or do you argue with the dr coz you're such a contrarian?
 
Rogan didn't believe in the moon landing for a loooong time, took multiple experts to change his mind

He very rarely has experts on that challenge his world view anymore
 
I'm not sure what this has to do with his insight into EU processes being better than say mine and yours?

Whether he attended 100% or 1% it's safe to say he knows more about EU than we do
Does his expertise trump us doing our own research?

IMO, it's not necessarily that Farage didn't know stuff (though he probably didn't) it's that he never let the truth get in the way of what he wanted his message to be
 
Don't start this again. When asked how it could of gone of better who listed vaccines.

He shut up for nearly a day after I utterly hosed him in that one. ;)

I miss the good old days when he only used to post when it was to slag off Costelow and the Welsh team's performance in general.
 
Rogan does peddle misinformation, though. That doesn't mean to say everything he says or platforms is bad or that there are no conspiracies but when you're talking these large scale ones like moon landing, planet shape, Covid conspiracy, etc etc they are, objectively, a load of ********. Now that doesn't mean to say the "expert" class don't get things wrong but it also doesn't mean we should listen to Gary next door when he says COVID isn't real or that it's a biological weapon made by the Jews. I mean, when you're sick, you go to the Dr, right? or do you argue with the dr coz you're such a contrarian?
I mean, I wouldn't lump COVID in with the flat earth and moon landing, that's silly, especially as there is plenty of evidence to highlight early 'conspiracy theories' were proved right, especially with regards to China, Wuhan labs, Masks, Lockdowns and natural immunity. When so many claims are proved accurate, it moves from some conspiracy theory to authoritarianism no?

And this is my point, when conspiracy and misinformation is weaponised, human rights abuses occur, as we saw during COVID. If I have to turn off an idiot spouting nonsense for that to be avoided, I'm happy to do so.
 

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