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Seriously, there is no way Williams should start Saturday. One slightly above average performance against relatively poor opposition doesn't change the fact that he hasn't played well in ages, actually when was the last time he even scored a try, after playing in pretty much every non test game? Fitzgerald is a better defender, better under the high ball, in better form, not as selfish and pretty much just better.[/b]
Sorry Fitzgerald is on the same par as Williams. Williams has tackled well, ran good lines and done good under the high ball so you cannot poo poo Williams through any of that. Again this shows how blatantly biased you are. Its quite rich calling me biased towards Welsh players but you are doing exactly the same.
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15. Kearney
14. Bowe
13. O'Driscoll
12. Roberts
11. Fitzgerald
10. Jones
9. Phillips
1. Jenkins
2. Rees
3. Jones
4. O'Callaghan
5. O'Connell
6. Croft
7. Wallace
8. Heaslip
Please Mr. McGeechan!!
5 changes, quite a few, but all these guys are the right choices IMO. Close between Wallace/Williams and Jones/O'Gara. Byrne won't be fit apparently.[/b]
NO THANK YOU!
Byrne will be fit apparently ... sources in SA tell me so.
Think Shaw will start in front of O'Callaghan and Wyn-Jones will be on the bench for the Lions. Williams will start ahead of Wallace purely on the fact that he wins ball on the floor more than Wallace and he Williams also plays as an extra back.
Heaslip is lucky there are no other quality 8's on tour because he has been poor.
Shane Williams I felt had the better game tonight that Fitzgerald so I do well see him starting or at least getting a shout on the bench.
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If Byrne is ft he'll probably start. Shaw ahead of O'Callaghan for power but nothing else in my opinion. Not much between Walalce and Williams as always.
But I object to Crymo on two points
Heaslip was anonymous in match and that was behind a retreating scrum that Sergio Parisse would have struggled to do anything from.
And Shane Williams did better in the match today than he has in previous tour matches but he also lost the ball near the end of the second half and was totally absent on his wing for the second try. What the hell was he doing arseing around in the centre? Besides one poor kick Fitzgerald was better. He Didn't force anything. Made a nice break and made what was possibly a try saving tackle in what looked like a very high tackle count.
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Blatant Munster tinted glasses I see.
Earls ran into Williams for that second try and stop him making the tackle, S4C coverage mentioned this. He was also moved onto the opposite wing second half which he is never comfortable in. Sorry are you also forgetting Williams managed to rip that ball in the tackle? Turn over to save an attempt at a try by the Boks? Nit picking at losing the ball in the second half shows that you are really lacking in any attack towards Williams. And he had to come into the centre to stop the tackler but as I said Earls got in his way!
Heaslip has been poor on tour yes hes played ok in games but he was truly poor in the First Test.
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Heaslip has played been the best backrow outside of Ferris adn Croft on tour so you clearly have it in for him or something.
Nothing to do with Munster tinted glasses when Williams pushes earls out of the line in teh sudden desparation to get back to where he should be.
And how quick every WElsh person is to forgive you of **** rugby from Williams and an epically **** tour by one match where he was little better than average.
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Nope Heaslip has played poor and the fact that you have now gone aggressive and started swearing has shown me you have clearly lost your rag and im afraid your point is no null and void.
Ha love the comment about Earls ... Williams was attempting to get back ... please just listen to yourself.
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Or perhaps **** was the best adjective?
And I'm going to go ahead and disagree on Heaslip. I don't think there's any point in argueing on that. It's a matter of oppinion.
That's exactly what Williams was doing because he was in the wrong position. He's a wing standing at inside centre? A skip pass or kick to the corner. No matter what happened, that was a try because he was out of position. Listen to yourself trying to blame Earls.
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So who did Earls take out then? thesaurus
Oh no wait it weren't Shane Williams it was someone else. Mate go and take your tinted Munster glasses off and pick up a dictionary.
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I think you'll find I'd need a
thesauras if you're complaining about limited alternatives for the word '****'. Oh and wait....I think we've been through this...he took out nobody. The wing who decided that he's no longer
competant at wing decided to play centre....forgot he never handed in his two weeks notice and rushed back to work but unfortunately crashed into the person who was doing his job on the way because....wait for it....he wasn't meant to be there in the first place.
You know its been said that some of the greatest authors of all time had poor vocabulary and bad
grammer but all that matters is that they could tell a great story. They have editors to do the rest for them.
Crymo. You can be my editor.
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Note:
thesaurus
competent
Cymro
grammar
If you think spelling my name incorrectly is a funny joke its not and don't say it was done by accident because it clearly was not. Have some respect for staff. Oh and continue to swear before you find yourself being punished. This forum is a family one and swear words are not tolerated.
Mate leave it because im not speaking to someone who is completely arrogant and biased.