[2025 Six Nations] Wales vs Ireland - 22/02/25

[dullonien]

Because after Gatland left our results changed?!?!

Losing at home against a rotated Ireland missing 6 first teamers is an absolute victory lol.

Let's be real, Wales were better against a weekend team, with a red card and fell short while never threatening to win lol.

The reaction to a half decent performance is laughable! Wales still lost, still never got a bonus point, and still sit bottom of the table with -59


What are we talking about? Except for the first 3 scrum penalties, the game went as expected!

I'd expect this argument from an opposition fan. You baffle me! Think I'll make this the last time I reply to you in this thread, as you're just repeating the same **** poor argumemts and it's very boring.

 

[dirty harry]

I'd expect this argument from an opposition fan. You baffle me! Think I'll make this the last time I reply to you in this thread, as you're just repeating the same **** poor argumemts and it's very boring.

Well what am I repeating that is **** poor?

The fact that Ireland rotated their team? Did they not?

The fact that Wales had a new coach, and were energised at home for the first time this year?

The fact that Wales turned the results around after Gatland?

Which of these are factually accurate?!

 

[Welsh Exile]

Because after Gatland left our results changed?!?!

Losing at home against a rotated Ireland missing 6 first teamers is an absolute victory lol.

Let's be real, Wales were better against a weekend team, with a red card and fell short while never threatening to win lol.

The reaction to a half decent performance is laughable! Wales still lost, still never got a bonus point, and still sit bottom of the table with -59


What are we talking about? Except for the first 3 scrum penalties, the game went as expected!

I honestly don't know what to say to you at this point. We're in different universes.

 

[dirty harry]

I honestly don't know what to say to you at this point. We're in different universes.

Because you think Wales were good? Against a full Ireland team?

We both know Easterby rotated a few key players, we both know there is a new coach boost for teams, we both know referees tend to favour hone teams...

What different universes are we talking about, are you claiming Jarrod Evans didn't give away field position for the Ireland try? Are you claiming Evans disnt throw a poor pass to deny the wales try?
Are you claiming Wales deserved to win?!

 

[dirty harry]

I've been forthcoming that for some reason Smith has been superior to Gareth Thomas in the scrum, that Llewllyn more than earned his place in the team, that Murray has held his own or that Roger's has been superb...

Everyone else has performed as expected have they not?

 

[Welsh Exile]

Because you think Wales were good? Against a full Ireland team?

We both know Easterby rotated a few key players, we both know there is a new coach boost for teams, we both know referees tend to favour hone teams...

What different universes are we talking about, are you claiming Jarrod Evans didn't give away field position for the Ireland try? Are you claiming Evans disnt throw a poor pass to deny the wales try?
Are you claiming Wales deserved to win?!

On what ******* planet are you on? Ireland are arguably the best ******* team in the world mate. We look like we'd lose against Portugal under Gatland at the end and you have the cheek to go on about Ireland rotating players. It's a joke. If Gatland and Howley are in charge of that game we get absolutely ravaged, with or without the changes. If you can't take any positives from today and you only want to focus on some negatives (which are largely in your own head) then again, I don't know what to say.

 

[Weldit]

I don't think anyone is saying they would beat Ireland in their current form, but they played a lot better than we've seen in a very long time. The success here is for the Irish who won a good game, fans who watched a good game and Wales finally showing some spark.

 

[Rugbyfan564]

Crazy that they're still chalking (?) logos on the pitch, players look like they've just done a shift down t'pit

It looks awful.

 

[BPM]

I don't think anyone is saying they would beat Ireland in their current form, but they played a lot better than we've seen in a very long time. The success here is for the Irish who won a good game, fans who watched a good game and Wales finally showing some spark.

Yes. From a neutral's POV, this is very much my take.

Definitely a much better watch than England vs. Scotland.

If Wales can build upon this showing, they will give Scotland and England a good game.

 

[Tooting Carmen]

Methinks the bench won it for Ireland. But Wales did show more energy and skill than for a long time.

 

[munstermuffin]

Well what am I repeating that is **** poor?

The fact that Ireland rotated their team? Did they not?

The fact that Wales had a new coach, and were energised at home for the first time this year?

The fact that Wales turned the results around after Gatland?

Which of these are factually accurate?!

Being honest.
We missed Furlong, Doris, Keenan. The rest was argubally our first choice. Aki Ringrose and Henshaw rotate all the time

 

[Saintjay]

Wales looked the 2nd best team out of the 4 on display today for me. Which is a massive improvement given for two rounds they've been comfortably the worst on display.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Ehhh weird thread.

Back in an airbnb now feeling fortunate.

From an Irish POV, I'm glad we're out of here with a win. In our three grand slams in my lifetime, we've won what everyone called a gimme, while playing **** and not necessarily deserving it. Scotland - 09, France - 18, and England - 23. I hope this is that game this year.

I came over expecting a new coach bounce and a tough game but never really thought there'd ever be a match in the balance. I was at the England game in Dublin and can say with certainty, we were closer to losing today than in Dublin a few weeks ago.

Wales played modern rugby today, it was a basic and primitive gameplan but it was so much more effective than anything they've played in 4 years. A more mature Welsh side wins that game and it's no fault of anyone in the squad today that they weren't more mature having played the last two years under a coach with a tactical approach 6 - 10 years out of date.

We were so bad from 10-45mins though. The gameplan was clearly to let Wales play themselves to death in difficult positions and territorially we were very good. Outside of that we didn't take the game to them at all. As ever and forever more Ireland's performance can be summarised by the 10. Prendergast looked lazy and complacent for most of the 1st half and then looked a level above his opposiotion for 30mins until the weird (amd his second of the championship) kick out on the full in the 2nd half. Saying that, JGP is our Sexton replacement right now, if Dupont didn't exist, he'd be compared to some of the all time great 9s, he's peerless in many ways.

Welsh rugby won me over in a huge way this weekend anyway. Incredible hosts, lovely people and knowledgeable fans across the board. I'll be back and don't expect to see wins in Cardiff being common place going forward.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

I don't like the 20 min red rule. A red is a red in my opinion. We benefitted there.

At least that was a tackle that the rule has been brought in for. A mistake with a low level of danger and borderline red / yellow (I thought it was red at the time) as headshots go unlike N'tamack.

But feels dirty.

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

Much better from Wal and Ire no doubt were a bit subconsciously complacent.

But the card had a massive influence.

Wal were 6-10 down when Ringer went off.

Won the card period 12-3

Lost the last 28 mins of 15s 14-0.

 

[munstermuffin]

I don't like the 20 min red rule. A red is a red in my opinion. We benefitted there.

At least that was a tackle that the rule has been brought in for. A mistake with a low level of danger and borderline red / yellow (I thought it was red at the time) as headshots go unlike N'tamack.

But feels dirty.

We did as it effectively meant an extended sin bin then a fresh fired up Aki

 

[HamJan]

Amazing that people think Wales did very well, against a rotated Ireland side, missing their first choice front row, locks, back row, centres and back 3 lol

Wales played too wide too early, Ireland didn't react very well, but ultimately cruised to victory...

It sounds like you still believe the old Gatland mantra that you have to 'earn the tight to go wide', which is a very outdated thought process and easy for another side to read. Wales don't yet have the players to impose themselves on other teams and they need to start playing to a different mindset, which includes attacking with fifteen players instead of twelve. Most other international teams try to play what's in front of them and Wales have always had the capacity to play a more attacking game, but under Gatland mark 2, they didn't. On Saturday they challenged Ireland in a way that Ireland weren't expecting and they looked so much better for it.

 

[Welsh Exile]

It sounds like you still believe the old Gatland mantra that you have to 'earn the tight to go wide', which is a very outdated thought process and easy for another side to read. Wales don't yet have the players to impose themselves on other teams and they need to start playing to a different mindset, which includes attacking with fifteen players instead of twelve. Most other international teams try to play what's in front of them and Wales have always had the capacity to play a more attacking game, but under Gatland mark 2, they didn't. On Saturday they challenged Ireland in a way that Ireland weren't expecting and they looked so much better for it.

Dirty Harry is Gatland. I can't think of any other reason why he would hold these edgy views. He must feel a bit embarrassed with all his "no other coach in the world could get more from Welsh players" chat that he's been banging on about. We all get things wrong so no big deal, well, apart from me obviously. I'm never wrong.

 

[Welsh Exile]

Warbs reckons Sherratt let Bomb pick the front row. Genius. I'm building a statue of Sherratt now.

 

[Welsh Exile]

@TRF_Olyy how ******* good is WGJ too. He needs to get the stink of the Scarlett's off him but glad he's back at Sale. What an unreal performance from him. I'll let him off a miss tackle in the build up to their first try as he put in a monster hit the phase before. Hope he can stay fit.