2021 British & Irish Lions Squad

[Leonormous Boozer]

Henshaw is currently a favourite for 12 jersey, we'll see if he goes dual playmaker, or Henshaw/Daly, or even Biggar/Ruseell - Farrell - Henshaw

Either way you need to be able to punch a hole or two up the middle to create space out wide, so balance is crucial

This also wont be the final squad to pick from, sadly injuries always play a big part in a Lions tour

You'll get Murray, Farrell, Aki, Henshaw and you'll be ******* pleased about it.

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

Has AWJ ever made a dominant tackle? Let alone any in the last 6 nations?

 

[Jakedood]

You'll get Murray, Farrell, Aki, Henshaw and you'll be ******* pleased about it.

I just came like 4 times

 

[Groundhog]

I just came like 4 times

First time Alphas ever managed to do that so big milestone here today

 

[ncurd]

Has AWJ ever made a dominant tackle? Let alone any in the last 6 nations?

I wondered about this the 6 nations he made a fair amount according to the official stats, not an outstanding amount but fairly average percentage against tackles made compared to other second rows.

I must of missed them all though.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

First time Alphas ever managed to do that so big milestone here today

We excluding your mum now?

 

[ncurd]

You'll get Murray, Farrell, Aki, Henshaw and you'll be ******* pleased about it.

Henshaw we'll be luck Biggar, Farrell, Aki will be it.

 

[big ginger 8]

Has there been any public statements about how a dominant tackle is actually tracked? It kind of just randomly appeared on tv broadcasts in 2019 but I've never actually seen it defined. Like Will Connors makes a lot of chop tackles behind the gainline but they're not dump tackles so do they count? Think it has the potential to be an informative stat but might be a bit PFFesque for any NFL teams out there.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Has there been any public statements about how a dominant tackle is actually tracked? It kind of just randomly appeared on tv broadcasts in 2019 but I've never actually seen it defined. Like Will Connors makes a lot of chop tackles behind the gainline but they're not dump tackles so do they count? Think it has the potential to be an informative stat but might be a bit PFFesque for any NFL teams out there.

I think it was so they could praise England/Farrell for tackling.
Farrell started to miss more tackles Ford wasn't missing, "Oh but look at his dominant tackles compared to Ford"

My guess is it's tackles that carriers don't gain yardage in.

 

[ncurd]

Has there been any public statements about how a dominant tackle is actually tracked? It kind of just randomly appeared on tv broadcasts in 2019 but I've never actually seen it defined. Like Will Connors makes a lot of chop tackles behind the gainline but they're not dump tackles so do they count? Think it has the potential to be an informative stat but might be a bit PFFesque for any NFL teams out there.

I'd track them by the amount of times I verbally say 'oooff' during a match. Which is typically every Sam Underhill tackle.

But yeah no clue how its actually measured. I assume if the player goes backwards from the point of tackle.

 

[Welsh Exile]

Has AWJ ever made a dominant tackle? Let alone any in the last 6 nations?

Apparently he put in loads this 6N. Way more than say Gray, for example.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

It's a shame that the Lions 13's prob wouldn't be able to get into at least half the prem clubs starting XV

 

[big ginger 8]

Looking at the 6N website Earls had the second most dominant tackles with 6 out of his 22, why isn't he going?!

AWJ was joint third with 5 dominant tackles but given he made 75 tackles it's a smaller percentage than Itoje's 6 of 59 or Ryan's 3/32.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

#Justice4Earls

He should be starting at tighthead lock

 

[Groundhog]

We excluding your mum now?

Banned. Let this be a lesson to the rest of you not to cross me.

 

[Curls]

I can kinda of see what you're saying but I'd disagree. I think we went for a lot of safe ball at the front with Tipuric so I agree we weren't throwing loads to the tail and getting good strike plays off it but I think it's a push to say our line out was dominated.

Agree on Ryan for sure.

Well as far as what will be required for the Boks 2 second rows who can facilitate throwing anywhere is important. Ryan certainly gives you that along with Itoje. Then you have the back rows and utility guys to supplement it.

On the Ryan issue I just cannot A) Get over his non selection and B) fathom the logic then used by Gatland. He says he wasn't selected because he had a bad game against LAR in a European semi. Yet Itoje is picked despite not playing well and personally contributing in some cases to England's 6 Nations woes and then playing in a competition containing teams made up of guys who had to pay in to see him do the above and work in Sainsburys.....

Yes on his day Itoje is obviously world class but going on Gatlands logic it just makes no sense...

 

[Welsh Exile]

Well as far as what will be required for the Boks 2 second rows who can facilitate throwing anywhere is important. Ryan certainly gives you that along with Itoje. Then you have the back rows and utility guys to supplement it.

On the Ryan issue I just cannot A) Get over his non selection and B) fathom the logic then used by Gatland. He says he wasn't selected because he had a bad game against LAR in a European semi. Yet Itoje is picked despite not playing well and personally contributing in some cases to England's 6 Nations woes and then playing in a competition containing teams made up of guys who had to pay in to see him do the above and work in Sainsburys.....

Yes on his day Itoje is obviously world class but going on Gatlands logic it just makes no sense...

Yeah it's mad. Think there's almost universal agreement that having Hill in over Ryan is pretty outrageous. I'm not really that worried about the lineout tbh. Well, not yet anyway.

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

Yeah it's mad. Think there's almost universal agreement that having Hill in over Ryan is pretty outrageous. I'm not really that worried about the lineout tbh. Well, not yet anyway.

I always said that Gatland has an English bias and that's why he's selected hill.

Or maybe something like that. Generally don't get the hill selection.

 

[MikeTheNative]

Simply swapping Hill for Stander would make the 2nd /Back Row situation a lot better

 

[ncurd]

British and Irish Lions 2021: Owen Farrell can find confidence on tour - Warren Gatland

Players like England captain Owen Farrell can return to "playing with some confidence" on this summer's British and Irish Lions tour, hopes head coach Warren Gatland.

www.bbc.com

The Lions isn't the place people should be looking for or confidence....