[2015 RWC] Pool A: England vs. Fiji (18/09/2015)

[Muzzy]

Justice at the end there. Should have been a penalty to fiji

 

[Tony Manx]

Do not agree! They have taken their chances despite a very iffy performance but Fiji have offered little and been, as usual, very indisciplined.....yes, even more than England!

 

[TRF_Ezequiel]

Wonder what the talking will be about during half time <_<

RTL7 rugby drinking game.


Drink everytime:

- A basic rule is explained
- They compare rugby positions to football positions
- They mention Tim Visser, Jonny Wilkinson or Jonah Lomu
- They talk about Nelson Mandela and the 1995 World Cup

 

[valley commando]

The worst refereeing in a long time, is he stupid , blind or under orders to by gentle on England and/or hard on Fiji.
That last penalty was never, if anything it should have gone the other way for holding on.

 

[Tony Manx]

The worst refereeing in a long time, is he stupid , blind or under orders to by gentle on England and/or hard on Fiji.
That last penalty was never, if anything it should have gone the other way for holding on.

One thinks one might be a little over the top.....and biased?

 

[Peat]

Did that last kick go over? Wasn't paying attention. Anyway, never should have been a penalty for England, should have gone the other way - May didn't let go. I remember Raggs expressing doubt about our ability to keep up with our wings, happened then.

May's been England's best player of the half for my money. He adds so much to the kickchase - in general we're much better there. Which is just as well as our kicking from open play is bobbins.

Quite a few players really struggling to get into the game for us. Still, this is basically the final warm up, two tries up, I'll take it.

Wood's been at his best for a while.

 

[TRF_Ezequiel]

The worst refereeing in a long time, is he stupid , blind or under orders to by gentle on England and/or hard on Fiji.
That last penalty was never, if anything it should have gone the other way for holding on.

Well, if this was anyone other than Jaco Peyper, I'd be surprised... But hey, he has been doing this crap for years in the Currie Cup and Super Rugby competitions.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

England are dire, forcing passes, nobody challenging the gain line, SO slow to the breakdown and the scrum is terrible again. Nothing in this performance will worry Australia or Wales. This is France all over again, the forward are refusing to do their damn jobs!

 

[ABs2015]

If the refs gives it then it should stand

Really? Man if this was the world cup final and the game rested on a call like that - would you want the game to be decided by a massive error? Now way man. I;m gutted for Fiji on that one but there is no way that try should have stood.

It's a pretty average game so far. Fiji would be right in it if they hadn't of got what appeared like stage fright at the start. Some terrible errors which led to many of the first 15 points. Not impressed with England either although a couple backline moves have looked decent. I'd be concerned about the forwards though, they really should be doing better.

As for the refereeing? There's always going to mistakes in Rugby so although he is not having a great game, I wouldn't be too concerned. Its the quality of play by each team that should be the real concern.

 

[Tony Manx]

Wilko and Sir Clive do not know the rules!! The try is not a try until the kick has been taken where the TMO or the ref call for a replay! Get over it!!

 

[ncurd]

England are dire, forcing passes, nobody challenging the gain line, SO slow to the breakdown and the scrum is terrible again. Nothing in this performance will worry Australia or Wales. This is France all over again, the forward are refusing to do their damn jobs!

Hopefully it'll give the players a kick without a loss need this now as opposed to the next two weeks.

Also we can at least scrub some of this up to nerves...

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Get Wilson and Attwood on at halftime.......ah....

 

[Aristodemus]

We need rid of Tom Youngs and a bit of steak in the second row. Our scrum and lineout need to be a strength not a weakness.

 

[TRF_Ezequiel]

Wilko and Sir Clive do not know the rules!! The try is not a try until the kick has been taken where the TMO or the ref call for a replay! Get over it!!

Well, here in the Netherlands they spend 5 minutes explaining how losing the ball forward results in a scrum for the opposition.

 

[ncurd]

The actual question on that try much like Youngs a forward pass 2 weeks ago. Why was it not reviewed in the first place? nobody was sure on grounding...

 

[Tony Manx]

We need rid of Tom Youngs and a bit of steak in the second row. Our scrum and lineout need to be a strength not a weakness.

Cannot but agree! The scrum is not a RWC winning scrum as it is! Jeez they cannot even get the better of The Fijians and that is true weakness!!!

 

[Every Time Ref]

You're awake, the pub is open, you're presumably not an alcoholic, what's stopping you?

And Amen. Praise be to Thor that the wait is almost over.

Problem was my mates weren't there yet...

Think we're trying to go wide too early would like to see us take a couple of phases sucking the defence before going out to the wide channels. Barritt at 12 also really doesn't help that.

Last 20 was really poor but the first 20 was good, and it's not that unusual to have a tough 20 against Fiji when they turn it on ... could have helped ourselves with less stupidity though. Youngs has had a few Youngs moments passing.

See what the second half brings

 

[Peat]

Wilko and Sir Clive do not know the rules!! The try is not a try until the kick has been taken where the TMO or the ref call for a replay! Get over it!!

Their point was what the rules should be, not what the rules are.

Also, I've seen a ref refer a try to the TMO after blowing the final whistle. Farcical.


We've lost one line-out due to insufficient movement at the back and people are blaming Youngs. I despair.

 

[Brabander]

RTL7 rugby drinking game.


Drink everytime:

- A basic rule is explained
- They compare rugby positions to football positions
- They mention Tim Visser, Jonny Wilkinson or Jonah Lomu
- They talk about Nelson Mandela and the 1995 World Cup

Hard to make it to the end of the game with those rules.

It's interesting to see how easy Fiji is getting over the gain line.

 

[Tony Manx]

Their point was what the rules should be, not what the rules are.

Not. What they said!