[2017 RBS Six Nations] Round 2: Wales vs England (11/02/2017)

[Bluemoon]

Clifford today. IMO (English fans can say otherwise) one of the worst selections Eddie Jones has made so far as Eng coach.

 

[ratsapprentice]

Hughes being dominated isn't simply down to a lack of other carriers taking the Welsh defence's attention.

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Clifford today. IMO (English fans can say otherwise) one of the worst selections Eddie Jones has made so far as Eng coach.

What?

In what regard?

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

This looks more like a Stuart Lancaster England, a lot of misfiring talent that isn't playing with a lot of cohesion.

Also, we are seeing that folk might have been going a little OTT about a "poor" Wales beating Argentina and South Africa and losing to the third best team in the world. Still, I have to say I'm surprised at how competitive this, the Welsh strength in the forwards and the speed of ball they are getting to play with.

 

[Brabander]

Haskell looking like a half dead seal again at the breakdown.

 

[HenryChinaski]

Hughes being dominated isn't simply down to a lack of other carriers taking the Welsh defence's attention.

Definitely not, no, but at least I'm aware of his existence unlike Clifford

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

So you can just get up after a tackle in midfield now?

What was brown thinking?

 

[Cruz_del_Sur]

Ref's been appalling so far. Off-side galore.

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

Definitely not, no, but at least I'm aware of his existence unlike Clifford

Just cause we are left confused on how he get any meters on his runs.

 

[HenryChinaski]

This is in a nutshell my issue with Ford. When he doesn't have his armchair, I'm constantly terrified.

 

[Cruz_del_Sur]

So you can just get up after a tackle in midfield now?

Agreed!

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

Thought Clifford had quite a good game tbh

 

[Bluemoon]

What?

In what regard?

He's been anonymous. I would say Wales have had their lions share of possession having free reign on the floor. Plenty of time for England to come back now though.

 

[Which Tyler]

I'm not convinced he's any worse than any other FH ever to play the game in that respect

 

[HenryChinaski]

I'm not convinced he's any worse than any other FH ever to play the game in that respect

Definitely targetable in a way that others aren't. You simply will make metres running at him.

 

[Which Tyler]

And yet still a better tackler than the likes of Cips, however much he's improved.


More to the point though, anyone picking out Ford for criticism is showing their confirmation bias, rather than commenting on Ford. Not that he's playing well (he isn't), just that he's probably not in the 5 worst players in an England shirt today, quite possibly not in the 10 worst.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

AGAIN England don't exit the 22, AGAIN we get turned over. WTF are they thinking!?

 

[TheSaffycen]

Only good thing about a loss is that hopefully a couple of bits of dead wood might get shifted?

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

I think hask kind of lucky there. 5 meters away wales was moving pretty solidly.

 

[ratsapprentice]

He's been anonymous. I would say Wales have had their lions share of possession having free reign on the floor. Plenty of time for England to come back now though.

What does that have to do with Clifford?

He's an 8 primarily - definitely not a groundhog.

Still the biggest issue for England has been the lack of carriers in the forwards without the Vunipolae.

 

[TheSaffycen]

**** youngs