Champions Cup - Pool 4, Round 5 (Bath, Glasgow, Montpellier, Toulouse)

[j'nuh]

It's the architecture and the sense of history, mate, that's what attracts the big names. You got an abbey in Leicester? Thought not

A fine example of the world-class rugby players of Bath soaking up the local culture. You can't say Bath without thinking of bar fights in the Pig and Fiddle pub, right?:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ru...n-punched-by-Bath-team-mate-on-night-out.html

 

[Every Time Ref]

A fine example of the world-class rugby players of Bath soaking up the local culture. You can't say Bath without thinking of bar fights in the Pig and Fiddle pub, right?:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ru...n-punched-by-Bath-team-mate-on-night-out.html

I believe that footage is actually from the gift shop of the Roman baths, where the boys were doing their annual pre-season bonding trip

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

A fine example of the world-class rugby players of Bath soaking up the local culture. You can't say Bath without thinking of bar fights in the Pig and Fiddle pub, right?:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ru...n-punched-by-Bath-team-mate-on-night-out.html

Yeah but that's Henson...

 

[goodNumber10]

We also pay a groundsman to keep our pitch decent. It's amazing what money can buy you.

Lol! he's robbing you judging by the state of Baths pitch every February and March.

Tell me the Jonathan Joseph we bought was as good as the Jonathan Joseph you saw playing today, though. Go on ...

He was a brilliant player at London Irish.

Not one for all the bath bashing, good side and i like watching them (don't tell @ratsapprentice though) but it's a bit a long call to say you have developed all these players, they were all class when they came to bath, they are in good form at the moment but being in a good team will do that for you.

 

[gaston le gaff]

Wow and i thought all the mercenaries were in France how wrong could i be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Every Time Ref]

Not one for all the bath bashing, good side and i like watching them (don't tell @ratsapprentice though) but it's a bit a long call to say you have developed all these players, they were all class when they came to bath, they are in good form at the moment but being in a good team will do that for you.

Not claiming Bath have been making silk purses out of sow's ears, but I don't recall JJ at London Irish taking the field away in Toulouse and making them look mediocre. You want more obvious examples, both Eastmond and Rokoduguni's entire professional rugby union experiences have come at Bath.

 

[goodNumber10]

Not claiming Bath have been making silk purses out of sow's ears, but I don't recall JJ at London Irish taking the field away in Toulouse and making them look mediocre. You want more obvious examples, both Eastmond and Rokoduguni's entire professional rugby union experiences have come at Bath.

Fair enough, on Eastmond and Roko, you're absolutely right but it's a bit of a claim for Wilson, Ford and JJ.

London Irish were a very decent attacking side with JJ in at 13 - probably the best attacking back line in the premiership when Mike Catt was the attack coach their strike moves were brilliant and a lot of them focused around getting JJ into space and letting him rip....

what i would say Bath have given them is stability, and a consistent team to play in with an expansive game plan.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Mapusua and Joesph were prob the most dangerous centre combo at the time IMO.

 

[BRSTLDRGN]

It's the architecture and the sense of history, mate, that's what attracts the big names. You got an abbey in Leicester? Thought not

Cathedrals > Abbeys

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Huget has put a apology for his dive up on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/Huget14/status/557235084663984128

Je m’excuse sincèrement pour ce geste de simulation inapproprié qui ne reflète pas du tout mon état d’esprit et les valeurs du rugby#sorry

 

[ratsapprentice]

Would have been far more surprising if he hadn't.

Needs to be banned, even if only briefly.

 

[goodNumber10]

seem to recall it not being the first time, or am i remembering it wrong?

 

[ratsapprentice]

Pretty sure I've seen him do it before.

I know Parra does it all the time.

 

[Tony Manx]

seem to recall it not being the first time, or am i remembering it wrong?

It is not just him, although his dive was outrageous, but many players! I

I would go back to, I believe, Andy Haden's infamous jump out of the line out to get the penalty which preserved an AB unbeaten touring record many moons ago!!!

How many players ran into defenders in chasing a kick over the weekend to try and get a penalty? How many players held in rucks so they cannot roll away? Etc etc

It is a sad state of affairs but refs need to be yellow carding them and it would soon stop!! They should not even warn them straight yellow for ungentlemanly/unsporting behaviour

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Habana did it in the HC final didn't he?

 

[goodNumber10]

It is not just him, although his dive was outrageous, but many players! I

I would go back to, I believe, Andy Haden's infamous jump out of the line out to get the penalty which preserved an AB unbeaten touring record many moons ago!!!

How many players ran into defenders in chasing a kick over the weekend to try and get a penalty? How many players held in rucks so they cannot roll away? Etc etc

It is a sad state of affairs but refs need to be yellow carding them and it would soon stop!! They should not even warn them straight yellow for ungentlemanly/unsporting behaviour

agreed!

 

[smartcooky]

I would go back to, I believe, Andy Haden's infamous jump out of the line out to get the penalty which preserved an AB unbeaten touring record many moons ago!!!

Except that is a myth.

Yes, Haden dived out of the lineout, but the penalty wasn't awarded for that. It was awarded against the Welsh Lock Geoff Wheel for jumping in the line-out by levering off Frank Oliver's shoulder. The referee, Roger Quittenden clearly pointed to Wheel and spoke to him as he made the secondary signal, a bent elbow pushing down, which in those days meant "Jumping or levering off the opponent's shoulder".

From his position on the Welsh side of the line-out, its doubtful if he could have even seen Haden's gold medal winning dive, and its doubtful, even if he had seen it, that he would have awarded a penalty for it unless he saw Jeff Squire push him out.

Roger died in 2013. He has always maintained that he never saw Haden fall out, and that he penalised Wheel.

However, you carry on Tony. Don't let the truth get in the way a good story.

 

[goodNumber10]

@smartcooky strikes again...

 

[smartcooky]

@smartcooky strikes again...

Yawn!


For the removal of doubt, I think Haden was a knob, and yes, it was gamesmanship, and he tried to cheat.

But I'm just setting the record straight. There is a lot of bullsh¡t talked about that decision, but the facts are that dive or no dive, Roger Q would have awarded the penalty against Geoff Wheel regardless. Talk to any member of the LSRFUR (I even know a few of them) and they will tell you the same thing.

 

[Tony Manx]

Yawn!


For the removal of doubt, I think Haden was a knob, and yes, it was gamesmanship, and he tried to cheat.

But I'm just setting the record straight. There is a lot of bullsh¡t talked about that decision, but the facts are that dive or no dive, Roger Q would have awarded the penalty against Geoff Wheel regardless. Talk to any member of the LSRFUR (I even know a few of them) and they will tell you the same thing.

If you say so, I will agree about what the penalty was actually given for as my memory is not great!

My point was that there was play acting many years ago and this is not in dispute.

Incidentally, your sarcasm toward me was quite unnecessary.