QF4: England vs Scotland, Sunday, 4.00pm, BBC1

[Which Tyler]

Winner plays France / Ireland

Ref: Aurelie Groizeleau
TJs: Clara Munarini, Amber Stamp-Dunstan
TMO: Quinton Immelman

England:
1. Kelsey Clifford
2. Amy Cokayne
3. Maud Muir
4. Morwenna Talling
5. Rosie Galligan
6. Zoe Aldcroft
7. Sadia Kabeya
8. Alex Matthews

09. Natasha Hunt
10. Holly Aitchison
11. Abby Dow
12. Tatyana Heard
13. Megan Jones
14. Jess Breach
15. Helena Rowland

16. Lark Atkin-Davies, 17. Mackenzie Carson, 18. Sarah Bern, 19. Abbie Ward, 20. Maddie Feaunati
21. Lucy Packer, 22. Zoe Harrison, 23. Emma Sing


Scotland:
1. Leah Bartlett
2. Lana Skeldon
3. Christine Belisle
4. Emma Wassell
5. Sarah Bonar
6. Rachel Malcolm
7. Evie Gallagher
8. Jade Konkel

09. Leia Brebner-Holden
10. Helen Nelson
11. Francesca McGhie
12. Lisa Thomson
13. Emma Orr
14. Rhona Lloyd
15. Chloe Rollie

16. Elis Martin, 17. Molly Wright, 18. Molly Poolman, 19. Eva Donaldson, 20. Rachel McLachlan
21. Alex Stewart, 22. Caity Mattinson, 23. Evie Wills

 

[Saintjay]

I'm assuming Kildunne is going through concussion protocols.

 

[Which Tyler]

>12 day stand down these days

 

[AlRums]

England v Scotland: How Women's Rugby World Cup quarter-final could renew old rivalry

England have not lost to Scotland this millennium. But Donna Kennedy, among the last Scots to beat England, says the current crop will believe they can oust the World Cup hosts.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[AlRums]

I'm assuming Kildunne is going through concussion protocols.

England v Australia, Saturday, 5.00pm, BBC2

Another forward pass not given

www.therugbyforum.com

 

[TommiG88]

I’ll be there, should be a good day.

Looking forward to logging on after the game and seeing Al question every decision against Scotland

 

[AlRums]

I'll be there, should be a good day.

Looking forward to logging on after the game and seeing Al question every decision against Scotland

I fully expect England to win, if Scotland can keep it within 30 I'll probably be happy and see it as a sign of progress.

 

[Saintjay]

I fully expect England to win, if Scotland can keep it within 30 I'll probably be happy and see it as a sign of progress.

I think Scotland have looked ok. With some improvement they'll be a really decent side I've enjoyed there matches

 

[AlRums]

I think Scotland have looked ok. With some improvement they'll be a really decent side I've enjoyed there matches

Well Scotland has a world ranking of 6th so they're not bad, just not as good as those above them.

 

[9215.]

There’s a lot I like about this team - I was hoping Rowland would get the nod at fullback and it’s great to see Aldcroft back on schedule, but most of all I’m really pleased to see Aitchison starting at 10, the back line just looks so much more coherent when she’s running it.
It’s a shame, though maybe not a surprise, that Botts isn’t ready, hoping she’s good for next week.
I don’t quite understand the reasoning for benching Abbie Ward, maybe it’s just managing her minutes but I do think she’s our strongest lock.

 

[Ddanno]

Glad Aldcroft is back. Looking forward to seeing what we've learned from the first 20 against Aus because Scotland are on a high

 

[Which Tyler]

I don't think any of the top 3 have looked particularly good by their own standards.
My worry for England is that we've mostly been making teams to death - which is A] not very spectacular (see 9215's point in the 1-sifed thread) and B] a bit one-track.
Yes, our back 4 have scored some tries, mostly from further out, but that looks like it's because they're individually brilliant, rather than because of systems and gameplan. I'd also add that we're making far too many handling and unforced errors, stuff you can't get away with against better teams (so have Canada and NZ, but to a lesser extent)

Now, there's an element of "okay, so you know what's coming, now try to stop it" about all of that, but I do worry that when we come up a team who can stop it, we run out of ideas.

Canada can probably match our power game, but I'm not sure they can handle our backs, if we choose to use them.
NZ probably can't match our power game, but they can refuse to play that game, not let it affect their mentality, and go around us (a bit like NZ v SA in men's rugby).

IMO France have actually found a higher gear than anyone else in the top 4 - showing a ruthlessness they don't usually against SA. England should swat Scotland aside with ease, but I want us to tighten up and show a bit more before we face up against France. If England play France the way those 2 played Aus and SA, then France might actually pull our pants down.

Here's hoping that Holly at FH can bring the control, and the backs, more into the game, and offer some variety and calmness.

 

[9215.]

Here's hoping that Holly at FH can bring the control, and the backs, more into the game, and offer some variety and calmness.

I might be putting too much onto one player’s shoulders but I really think she can. Our backs looked fantastic throughout 23&24 when she running things and I think the Scotland match was the best of this year’s 6N, and the only one where she wore 10.

 

[AlRums]

Bad weather, high emotio & 'trump card' Nelson - how Scotland can beat England

How Scotland can beat England in the Women's Rugby World Cup quarter-finals

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Jimbo]

I still don’t get this ripper thing.

 

[AlRums]

Clear forward pass

 

[Which Tyler]

Im a few minutes behind, but Aurelie just missed Scotland hurdling a tackler, then a knock on my Breach (who was set to chase a kick, not received a pass).

Presumably that's the KO Al mentions above

 

[Which Tyler]

I still don't get this ripper thing.

Given that the lifters were never in front of the catcher - I really don't get it.
I've had it explained to me, I can't remember the explanation, but can remember remaining confused

 

[Jimbo]

Clear forward pass

Potentially forward I thought there was a possibility in real time nothing to suggest it was clear and obvious though in any view I have seen.

 

[Jimbo]

Given that the lifters were never in front of the catcher - I really don't get it.
I've had it explained to me, I can't remember the explanation, but can remember remaining confused

Same I think I have to and tried to find it but nothing really clicks in my mind, like as you say if the catcher is nearest the try line what’s the problem then not beyond and being obstructed by the lifters is usually the issue and the term ripper I’ll be honest until recently I’ve never heard it used in this context.