Brumbies vs the BIL

[dirty harry]

JGP MOTM?!?!?!?!

Hahahaha I thought he was very poor, knocked a few on, sniped when it wasnt on, delivery shaky, and didnt help Russell at all.

Itoje was head and shoulders above any other player.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

JGP MOTM is crazy work

 

[dirty harry]

JGP MOTM is crazy work

I dont think he's 100% like a few Irish players. Maybe being played into full fitness and form. Tomos would be gutted to not be here.

White starts Saturday, with Smith at 10, Farrell at 12?

 

[ChicagoKid]

Something about this B&I team doesn’t feel right. There is clearly talent everywhere, but outside of a few players, nothing wows you.

Sheehan, Freeman, Ringrose, and Genge are playing at an elite level but no one else is.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they lost the first test and make a bunch of needed changes for the second.

Bundee, Furlong, Kinghorn, Curry and others are not playing very well.

 

[Grizwald]

Something about this B&I team doesn’t feel right. There is clearly talent everywhere, but outside of a few players, nothing wows you.

Sheehan, Freeman, Ringrose, and Genge are playing at an elite level but no one else is.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they lost the first test and make a bunch of needed changes for the second.

Bundee, Furlong, Kinghorn, Curry and others are not playing very well.

I doubt it but I really hope its a case of them not showing too much of their hand. Gatlands approach was always a simple gameplan that could be executed in a short time frame. Today the BiL were short on energy and physicality (again).

Far too many times were guilty of forcing it. Sadly Tom Curry has played himself out of the test 23 now IMO. McCarthy didnt do a whole lot in my mind, which is why you've got to take performances in the warm ups with a pinch of salt.

Thought Chessum had a good game but not sure about him being used at 6. Thought only Sheehan, Ringrose, and Freeman, Itoje came out of that with any real credit.

 

[Rugbyfan564]

BBC said it was a HIA

It certainly wasn’t. He was hopping about like Skippy before he went off.

 

[Rugbyfan564]

Another one that probably touches the floor at some point but isn't on film so can't be turned over

How long till some sort of technology that can tell that comes in?

 

[Rugbyfan564]

Lions player ratings v Brumbies: Dan Sheehan shines but Tom Curry unconvincing

Telegraph Sport looks at who stood out and who must do better after tourists win fourth match in Australia

www.telegraph.co.uk

Kinghorn - 6/10 - 'Will start if fit'
Freeman - 6/10 - 'Still likely to start'
Ringrose - 8/19 - 'Improves his chances'
Aki - 7/10 - 'Still between him and Tuipulotu'
Lowe - 6/10 - 'In with a good chance'
Russell - 8/10 - ‘Certain’
Gibson-Park - 8/10 - ‘Certain’
Genge - 7/10 - ‘Pulling ahead of Porter’
Sheehan - 8/10 ‘Certain’
Furlong - 6/10 - Lost ground to Stuart and Bealham’
Itoje - 8/10 - ‘Certain’
McCarthy - 6/10 - ‘ Likely to be on the bench’
Chessum - 8/10 - ‘Assured of being involved’
Curry - 7/10 - ‘Between him and Morgan’
Conan - 7/10 - ‘Likely to start’
Replacements - 7/10 - ‘Smith might habe got himself a bench spot and Porter, Stuart, van der Filer and Pollock all helped their chances of getting in the 23’

Muirhead 7/10 O'Donnell 7/10 Sapsford 7/10 Feliuai 6/10 Toole 6/10 Meredith 6/10 R Lonergan 7/10 Telei 6/10 L Lonergan 7/10 van Nek 5/10 Shaw 5/10 Neville 7/10 Hooper 7/10 Scote 8/10 8. Tuaina, Taii Tualima 7/10

 

[ChicagoKid]

I doubt it but I really hope its a case of them not showing too much of their hand. Gatlands approach was always a simple gameplan that could be executed in a short time frame. Today the BiL were short on energy and physicality (again).

Far too many times were guilty of forcing it. Sadly Tom Curry has played himself out of the test 23 now IMO. McCarthy didnt do a whole lot in my mind, which is why you've got to take performances in the warm ups with a pinch of salt.

Thought Chessum had a good game but not sure about him being used at 6. Thought only Sheehan, Ringrose, and Freeman, Itoje came out of that with any real credit.

Completely agree with every word.

After my morning contemplation on the porcelain throne, I’ve come to the conclusion that my issue is the poor performance of so many Irish players.

Conan, Furlong, JVDF, JBP, Bundee, Keenan, Beirne, and McCarthy have been rather blah or poor the entire tour.

When you’ve built the spine of your team with Irish boys and they aren’t performing, it makes the team feel vulnerable.

Add in the strength of the team was the back row and I have zero idea what the right balance is. Curry is playing poorly. There is no clear 6. Conan is OK, but they need him to be great.

If Valentini, Wilson, and Mcreight are healthy, I’m going with the OZ backrow all day.

 

[ChicagoKid]

Lions player ratings v Brumbies: Dan Sheehan shines but Tom Curry unconvincing

Telegraph Sport looks at who stood out and who must do better after tourists win fourth match in Australia

www.telegraph.co.uk

Kinghorn - 6/10 - 'Will start if fit'
Freeman - 6/10 - 'Still likely to start'
Ringrose - 8/19 - 'Improves his chances'
Aki - 7/10 - 'Still between him and Tuipulotu'
Lowe - 6/10 - 'In with a good chance'
Russell - 8/10 - 'Certain'
Gibson-Park - 8/10 - 'Certain'
Genge - 7/10 - 'Pulling ahead of Porter'
Sheehan - 8/10 'Certain'
Furlong - 6/10 - Lost ground to Stuart and Bealham'
Itoje - 8/10 - 'Certain'
McCarthy - 6/10 - ' Likely to be on the bench'
Chessum - 8/10 - 'Assured of being involved'
Curry - 7/10 - 'Between him and Morgan'
Conan - 7/10 - 'Likely to start'
Replacements - 7/10 - 'Smith might habe got himself a bench spot and Porter, Stuart, van der Filer and Pollock all helped their chances of getting in the 23'

Muirhead 7/10 O'Donnell 7/10 Sapsford 7/10 Feliuai 6/10 Toole 6/10 Meredith 6/10 R Lonergan 7/10 Telei 6/10 L Lonergan 7/10 van Nek 5/10 Shaw 5/10 Neville 7/10 Hooper 7/10 Scote 8/10 8. Tuaina, Taii Tualima 7/10

The headline is incongruent with the rating.

 

[Grizwald]

Lions player ratings v Brumbies: Dan Sheehan shines but Tom Curry unconvincing

Telegraph Sport looks at who stood out and who must do better after tourists win fourth match in Australia

www.telegraph.co.uk

Kinghorn - 6/10 - 'Will start if fit'
Freeman - 6/10 - 'Still likely to start'
Ringrose - 8/19 - 'Improves his chances'
Aki - 7/10 - 'Still between him and Tuipulotu'
Lowe - 6/10 - 'In with a good chance'
Russell - 8/10 - ‘Certain’
Gibson-Park - 8/10 - ‘Certain’
Genge - 7/10 - ‘Pulling ahead of Porter’
Sheehan - 8/10 ‘Certain’
Furlong - 6/10 - Lost ground to Stuart and Bealham’
Itoje - 8/10 - ‘Certain’
McCarthy - 6/10 - ‘ Likely to be on the bench’
Chessum - 8/10 - ‘Assured of being involved’
Curry - 7/10 - ‘Between him and Morgan’
Conan - 7/10 - ‘Likely to start’
Replacements - 7/10 - ‘Smith might habe got himself a bench spot and Porter, Stuart, van der Filer and Pollock all helped their chances of getting in the 23’

Muirhead 7/10 O'Donnell 7/10 Sapsford 7/10 Feliuai 6/10 Toole 6/10 Meredith 6/10 R Lonergan 7/10 Telei 6/10 L Lonergan 7/10 van Nek 5/10 Shaw 5/10 Neville 7/10 Hooper 7/10 Scote 8/10 8. Tuaina, Taii Tualima 7/10

Some iffy scores and comments for me. Thought Freeman was one of the better players on the pitch and nit the same score as Lowe.

Furlong had a better game, Bealam has been the form tight head Stuart hasn't really shown his excellent 6N and Bath form.

 

[mikebrownsauce1512]

Ben White hasn't been given a fair crack. We don't need to see Mitchell again. White better be starting on Saturday

Always thought White was class, IMO he should have been on the tour to start with. Plays well every time he feature for Scotland.

 

[Ddanno]

Some iffy scores and comments for me. Thought Freeman was one of the better players on the pitch and nit the same score as Lowe.

Furlong had a better game, Bealam has been the form tight head Stuart hasn't really shown his excellent 6N and Bath form.

There's more than a few players that look knackered after a very long season and presumably some beasting training sessions.

 

[Grizwald]

There's more than a few players that look knackered after a very long season and presumably some beasting training sessions.

Said in a previous post when watching the Lions socials you realise how little training they get to do because of the travel and quick turn arounds. Players just won't be conditioned to play twice a week either.

Anyhow on a positive note the Lion's haven't dropped a game in Australian soil. I think that's testament to the overall quality of the squad.

 

[Becca]

Another iffy performance, I think.

Yes it’s a win, but I had hoped to see more cohesion in the ranks by now.

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

There's more than a few players that look knackered after a very long season and presumably some beasting training sessions.

Yeah. The Leinster lads must’ve played at least a dozen games this season.

 

[NickBD]

So if Kinghorn is out what happens? You can't play the rest of the series with Keenan and M Smith.

 

[TommiG88]

So if Kinghorn is out what happens? You can't play the rest of the series with Keenan and M Smith.

I suspect George Ford will be called up

 

[Reiser99]

Sexton out of retirement. After all Farrell has already said there are enough fullbacks

 

[mikebrownsauce1512]

I suspect George Ford will be called up

For me Ford should have been on the tour to start with, would be very happy for him if he got himself on a lions tour. Currently he's the best player from Britain and Ireland not to have been a lion.