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<blockquote data-quote="Mrs. Peter Quinn" data-source="post: 556667" data-attributes="member: 12190">On the face of it neither pack has a huge amount in the way of ball carriers... I&nbsp; certainly think we might miss a big carrying 8 like Morgan, but then look at Wales: I&#039;d say the chief carriers are Hibbard, Wyn-Jones, Faletau and Tipuric(more though his agility than anything) Bearing in mind I see Faletau&#039;s strengths elsewhere than ball carrying, it&#039;s not a bunch to be sniffed at but nor is it an intimidating lot. However, I suppose you have to add to that the back&#039;s who can and will get involved when they see the chance. Now looking at England: Tom Youngs, Mako Vunipola if he starts, Parling, Robshaw a bit...I certainly wouldn&#039;t say we&#039;re out of our depth. I&#039;d be tempted to keep the Hask at 6, if only for some semblance of balance. I suppose it&#039;s what Peat said, though, about how much our current game relies on quick ball. I really hope Tuilagi can increase his impact this game; I&#039;ve seriously never seen a team deal better with Tuilagi than Italy did last week. They gavenew meaning to &#039;tackling low&#039; and really did a job on him. Given better territory, I think he can do better. In general though, it infuriates me to see us struggle for creativity at international level, when week in week out I watch my club side which contains the likes of Simpson, Daly, Wade, Varndell...&nbsp; This said, I definitely don&#039;t believe that Manu s our only threat. Both Youngs and Care can rip teams to shreds on their day, whilst Brown is doing a relatively good job out of position. There are good things that could come out of a loss this weekend; it would no longer be defensible to play guys out of position, and we&#039;d be able to see the combination&#039;s we want.. e.g Twelvetrees playing with Tuilagi</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mrs. Peter Quinn, post: 556667, member: 12190"] On the face of it neither pack has a huge amount in the way of ball carriers... I certainly think we might miss a big carrying 8 like Morgan, but then look at Wales: I'd say the chief carriers are Hibbard, Wyn-Jones, Faletau and Tipuric(more though his agility than anything) Bearing in mind I see Faletau's strengths elsewhere than ball carrying, it's not a bunch to be sniffed at but nor is it an intimidating lot. However, I suppose you have to add to that the back's who can and will get involved when they see the chance. Now looking at England: Tom Youngs, Mako Vunipola if he starts, Parling, Robshaw a bit...I certainly wouldn't say we're out of our depth. I'd be tempted to keep the Hask at 6, if only for some semblance of balance. I suppose it's what Peat said, though, about how much our current game relies on quick ball. I really hope Tuilagi can increase his impact this game; I've seriously never seen a team deal better with Tuilagi than Italy did last week. They gavenew meaning to 'tackling low' and really did a job on him. Given better territory, I think he can do better. In general though, it infuriates me to see us struggle for creativity at international level, when week in week out I watch my club side which contains the likes of Simpson, Daly, Wade, Varndell... This said, I definitely don't believe that Manu s our only threat. Both Youngs and Care can rip teams to shreds on their day, whilst Brown is doing a relatively good job out of position. There are good things that could come out of a loss this weekend; it would no longer be defensible to play guys out of position, and we'd be able to see the combination's we want.. e.g Twelvetrees playing with Tuilagi [/QUOTE]

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