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Twickenham stunner delivers powerful lesson

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"Where now then for the consistently hopeless Northern Hemisphere rugby? No more excuses about being unable to play Southern Hemisphere-type rugby on grounds in the Northern Hemisphere.
Where to now for all the apologists north of the equator who have tried to pass off years of tripe as top-class rugby?
Monday at Twickenham, and the first Super 15 match outside the Southern Hemisphere, was a defining moment for both hemispheres.
The Sharks might have got belted, overrun at times in the first half by the sheer genius of the Crusaders. But, especially after halftime, they still played their part in a game that stuffed years of excuses back down the throats of Northern Hemisphere rugby. This was as good as rugby gets.
Quick ball? It was there in abundance. Straight running? It was commonplace. Good decision-making? That was to be seen all over the field. Courage, commitment, physicality? It was everywhere to be seen.
Timing of the pass? Angle of the attacking run, off-loading in the tackle, especially by the extraordinarily skilled Sonny Bill Williams? All sublime.


So too was the subtle way Dan Carter launched his backline. Every pyrotechnic display takes someone to light the fuse and Carter did it in style.
This was a rugby lesson like no other to those in Britain and Europe. The slow, ponderous style of play they have hallmarked will be cruelly and brutally exposed at the World Cup this year, if Graham Henry holds true to his pledge to retain this type of dynamic, attack-based, ball-in-hand playing style.
And maybe South African rugby will be exposed too by the New Zealanders if they play anything like the Crusaders did in the first half in the Twickenham sunshine. To see the potential Springboks front row, Jannie and Bismarck du Plessis and John Smit, destroyed by the Crusaders' pack, was a warning to Boks' coach Peter de Villiers.
What it ought to have told him is that forward power alone is unlikely to be enough at the World Cup this year, certainly not against the All Blacks. And what other game do the South Africans have to offer if Plan A fails?
It certainly did for the Sharks. To see their scrum in headlong retreat was a huge shock.
They were not only cut to pieces by the genius of the Crusaders behind the scrum but hammered in the forward exchanges too.
As John Smit, loosehead prop on the day, retreated to the sideline after 50 minutes, after suffering an absolute mauling at the set pieces, you just sensed the whole debate about whether the World Cup might be a tournament too far for the great Springbok captain might not be reignited.
All around Twickenham, there were thousands of empty seats for this spectacular rugby feast. Almost two entire tiers in fact, which was an utterly shameful sight.
Put that down to the myopic British rugby public who only want to watch a lethargic war of attrition riddled with penalty kicks.
Never has the ignorance of the rugby public in this part of the world been more emphasised. Twickenham should have been filled to bursting.
But the good old Brits swallow, hook, line and sinker the clap-trap trotted out by blinkered British media that they are seeing the best rugby in the world each week. It is a lie that was nailed forever at Twickenham on Monday.
We should applaud the players of both teams for such a spectacular show. At times, the Crusaders might have been on another planet to their South African rivals. Yet long before the end the Sharks restored their pride. And they should feel proud to have participated in stuff as good as this.
* Peter Bills is a rugby writer for Independent News & Media in London"

By Peter Bills

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=10715793
 
Is he british?? Or a kiwi working up there ? Anyone know?
 
A quick google suggests he's from the SH (has worked for papers in SA and NZ in the past) - or at least wishes he was!

He also wrote an article called "20 reasons why English rugby is rubbish"
 
Well tbh yeah they played exiting rugby in the NH.. but that day was a nice day in the best stadium in England for rugby.. get 2 teams to play in a premiership or Magners league stadium in the middle of winter then we'll see if the game is still the same as it is normally..
 
I just loved Patrick Kidd's comment on the match in the Times:

"Where was the forward play, the endlessly reset scrums, the games of ping pong between unimaginative fullbacks? Why did the centres run into gaps, instead of each other?"

I just adore this sarcasm haha
 
Well tbh yeah they played exiting rugby in the NH.. but that day was a nice day in the best stadium in England for rugby.. get 2 teams to play in a premiership or Magners league stadium in the middle of winter then we'll see if the game is still the same as it is normally..

True dat.

Look at Saints vs Wasps and Tigers vs Bath, they were both done in the same conditions as the Crusaders match and they were both great matches, admittedly one sided, but lots of running and tries and the such
 
I will definatly agree the premier pitches in Britan in winter are very tough to play on, seriously recomend artificial turf I have played on it a few times its a good option
 
Bills is an English man who now lives in SA (Apparently).

I think Bills is wrong about the way rugby will be played at the RWC. It will be the same it has been for the last few tournaments.
Forward play and kicking.
 
Can't see what good these articles actually do apart from selling more newspapers ... while both sides that played at Twickers have been playing some pretty good Rugby this year, IMO, that's the best game that either side have played all year, and I seriously doubt that either side could sustain that over the course of a NH season - also, correct me if i'm wrong, but the conditions were pretty good, how would they have gone if the weather was bad ... it would have been interesting to see the reaction if the Twickers crowd had been watching the Chief V Blues match last weekend.

I actually enjoy rugby from both hemispheres at the moment ... the different styles make it interesting to me
 
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I'm not quite sure where this 'club rugby in the NH is a forwards based borefest' stereotype has come from. Sure a few teams rely on forwards, and can be quite successful due to the conditions much of the NH domestic season is played in. However, have these 'journalists' ever seen the likes of Tolouse, Northampton, Leinster or even the Scarlets play. I don't think you see a more attacking based side in the world than the Scarlets, who have to rely on out-running their opponents most of the time. As with the majority of stereotypes, it's one that's born from only tiny pieces of truth, ignoring everything else.
 
Well,

It's no secret that SH rugby is more based on running with the ball, when NH rugby is a more conservative style where they are cautious. SH teams play to score tries first and worry about conceding them afterwards. NH teams do it the otherway around
 
The irony that Peter Bills calls us lot ignorant when no mention of some excellent games were played.

One eyed Twat.
 
I have to admit that Crusaders and Sharks are the 2 most attractive playing teams in the competition when it comes to attacking. If the Bulls would have played the Western Force, with all due respect, this would not have been such a legendary match
 
Look at the Quin's vs Gloucester Game, had the same amount of tries, and was one of the best games I had seen this season in the Aviva Premiership.
 
I think there is a bit of negative stuff going both ways. South call northern rugby boring and north call southern rugby messy/loose and the forward play & defence weak.

Overall some of it may be true and some not, but looking at the IRB world rankings it does paint a pretty obvious picture. ;)
 
Look at the Quin's vs Gloucester Game, had the same amount of tries, and was one of the best games I had seen this season in the Aviva Premiership.
Be honest thought, weren't the Gloucs defence as much responsible for many of the seven tries they conceded as Quins attack were? Was there the level of skill displayed in the midfield as there was in the Crusaders match

As a counterpoint to the Quins v Gloucs match you have Saracens v Falcons on the same day in similar weather down the road at Watford....endless scrum resets, endless aimless kicking. It was dire to say the least.
 

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