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The Autopsy thread: Which England team members are for the chopping block?
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<blockquote data-quote="j&#039;nuh" data-source="post: 754218" data-attributes="member: 55446"><p>I find it hard to judge Lancaster about what happened with the centres; I think he gave plenty of players plenty of chance to show what they were worth. Unfortunately, none of them lived up to any kind of their hype. Twelvetrees initially looked like he could be the complete 12, and then out of nowhere started proactively losing games with terrible decision-making. Burrell showed promise and had a great season with the Saints, and never really delivered on the international level, particularly defensively. He didn't seem to get his carrying game going on the international level like he did at club level. Joseph found a good vein of form late in Lancaster's tenure but wasn't seen (by anyone) as an England option early on. Tuilagi hasn't been available for England for the best part of the last two years through injury and assaulting police officers. Barritt is the only player to have shown any kind of consistency over 4 years, but many (most?) would say he's far too limited a player for international rugby.</p><p></p><p>There were some mistakes. I still don't understand moving Burgess to 12. And it was a terrible idea not to try out Slade at some point in 2015. Barritt was probably overused. It was probably a waste giving Eastmond any caps as his size probably limits him too much at 12. But on the whole, he gave a number of players a decent run in the team and only Joseph impressed.</p><p></p><p>We're in a (perhaps) better position in the centres going into 2016. Tuilagi-Joseph has all the trademarks of a long-term partnership and we'll see it hopefully for the first time in the Six Nations. We then have a new batch of centres to look at - Hill, Slade, Stephenson, Marshall - at some point in the next 4 years. </p><p></p><p>A potential problem going forward is that Farrell and Ford are vastly different players and whoever starts will change the kind of service and the kind of game that the centres will have to play. The "attack-first"/"defence-first" dichotomy was at the heart of the inconsistency in selection in this world cup after all. Picking Ford and Cipriani/Slade <strong>or</strong> Farrell and Slade as the main fly-halves would probably give us a more consistent game plan.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="j'nuh, post: 754218, member: 55446"] I find it hard to judge Lancaster about what happened with the centres; I think he gave plenty of players plenty of chance to show what they were worth. Unfortunately, none of them lived up to any kind of their hype. Twelvetrees initially looked like he could be the complete 12, and then out of nowhere started proactively losing games with terrible decision-making. Burrell showed promise and had a great season with the Saints, and never really delivered on the international level, particularly defensively. He didn't seem to get his carrying game going on the international level like he did at club level. Joseph found a good vein of form late in Lancaster's tenure but wasn't seen (by anyone) as an England option early on. Tuilagi hasn't been available for England for the best part of the last two years through injury and assaulting police officers. Barritt is the only player to have shown any kind of consistency over 4 years, but many (most?) would say he's far too limited a player for international rugby. There were some mistakes. I still don't understand moving Burgess to 12. And it was a terrible idea not to try out Slade at some point in 2015. Barritt was probably overused. It was probably a waste giving Eastmond any caps as his size probably limits him too much at 12. But on the whole, he gave a number of players a decent run in the team and only Joseph impressed. We're in a (perhaps) better position in the centres going into 2016. Tuilagi-Joseph has all the trademarks of a long-term partnership and we'll see it hopefully for the first time in the Six Nations. We then have a new batch of centres to look at - Hill, Slade, Stephenson, Marshall - at some point in the next 4 years. A potential problem going forward is that Farrell and Ford are vastly different players and whoever starts will change the kind of service and the kind of game that the centres will have to play. The "attack-first"/"defence-first" dichotomy was at the heart of the inconsistency in selection in this world cup after all. Picking Ford and Cipriani/Slade [B]or[/B] Farrell and Slade as the main fly-halves would probably give us a more consistent game plan. [/QUOTE]
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